*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Grim5]

I bet the note from AMD says: please don't open box until March

 

[TNA]

@Gerard fair play with your patience mate,

What? He just literally said he doesn't give a **** and does not even play games. Lol

 

[Gerard]

Of all people why are you quoting MLID ffs. That guy makes **** up as he goes along. Does he have evidence?

Course not, just he heard from someone else who heard from someone else who attended a séance and someone's great granny materialised and spilled the beans.

 

[Gerard]

What? He just literally said he doesn't give a **** and does not even play games. Lol

I tried bfv the other night and quit out in less than a minute. Seen it, done it got the t shirt at this point.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Of all people why are you quoting MLID ffs. That guy makes **** up as he goes along. Does he have evidence?

The issue is that sort of explains the delay and why the cards have these fancy coolers,large PCBs,triple 8 pin power connectors,etc. They look more like RX7900XTX cards.

AMD clearly wanted to sell these for more. These cards don't look like ones you would typically sell for £450 to £550,especially with the PSU connector requirements.

Remember Vega 56 with the special edition pricing? This is more of the same.

They were quite clearly telling porkies about the mainstream pricing! Mainstream pricing would be below £500,so why are they suddenly having to adjust pricing if the RTX5070 is £540 and above?

This is the same with the Zen5 CPUs. AMD probably had an inkling Arrow Lake was crap,so priced Zen5 highly too.

Edit!!

Remember the emergency BIOS for the RX5600XT? They panicked when the RTX2060 was dropped in price a small amount and released a new BIOS. Tried to sell it as a jebait,but the RX5600XT was priced too high.

I expect AMD is finding every avenue to jack the pricing up as high as possible. Two months is enough for an emergency BIOS!

 

[tommybhoy]

What? He just literally said he doesn't give a **** and does not even play games. Lol

In regards to complaining about BS click bait that's taken as fact.:thumbsup

 

[TNA]

They've broken Humbug.
Man's been hoping AMD come good for 15 years now.

Spoiler

 

[Bidley]

None of this matters until they announce the price and reviews are out.

 

[TNA]

In regards to complaining about BS click bait that's taken as fact.:thumbsup

Lol. So AMD could not have managed this any better yes? It is all the fault of the interwebz?

 

[TNA]

None of this matters until they announce the price and reviews are out.

But it does matter. The way they are managing Radeon, their markets share keeps going in the wrong direction.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

What would be quite funny is if Nvidia just announced that the 5070/5070Ti was delayed until April in a sort of "Your move AMD. We're selling our 5080 and 5090 so we can sit on these for a bit longer while we consider the prices."

I wonder how that would go down with the community?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Lol. So AMD could not have managed this any better yes? It is all the fault of the interwebz?

Totally all rumours when:
1.)AMD pulled the CES announcement at the last minute
2.)Didn't tell the tech press they were doing this,who released official slides
3.)Tech press confounded on what was happening,because AMD said nothing
4.)AIB partners confounded as they were showing off cards at CES to the tech press
5.)Cards with huge coolers,PCBs,etc that look expensive
6.)AMD saying everything was going according to plan and they were targeting the mainstream
7.)AMD seemingly not wanting to talk about RDNA4 in any detail
8.)Retailers receiving stock with pictures of the boxes
9.)Some retailers showing orders/pre-orders for this week
10.)AMD now saying the launch is sometime in March despite retailers having stock

Totally normal dGPU launch there.

AMD totally reacting in a normal way.

 

[Bidley]

But it does matter. The way they are managing Radeon, their markets share keeps going in the wrong direction.

Matters to who? None of those things affect the way my PC performs.

 

[TNA]

Matters to who? None of those things affect the way my PC performs.

Well they should carry on then I suppose. Single digit market share here we come

 

[TNA]

Totally all rumours when:
1.)AMD pulled the CES announcement at the last minute
2.)Didn't tell the tech press they were doing this,who released official slides
3.)Tech press confounded on what was happening,because AMD said nothing
4.)AIB partners confounded as they were showing off cards at CES to the tech press
5.)Cards with huge coolers,PCBs,etc that look expensive
6.)AMD saying everything was going according to plan and they were targeting the mainstream
7.)AMD seemingly not wanting to talk about RDNA4 in any detail
8.)Retailers receiving stock with pictures of the boxes
9.)Some retailers showing orders/pre-orders for this week
10.)AMD now saying the launch is sometime in March despite retailers having stock

Totally normal dGPU launch there.

AMD totally reacting in a normal way.

Didn't happen. Doesn't have an impact on anything...

 

[Bidley]

Well they should carry on then I suppose. Single digit market share here we come

I don't see how that relates to my post, but ok

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well they should carry on then I suppose. Single digit market share here we come

Apparently AMD thinks mainstream owners use cards with over 300MM PCB lengths,triple slot coolers,triple 8 pin power connectors,etc. It should have been obvious the cards didn't look like cheap ones!

They were giving out interviews talking about targeting the mainsteam and the RDNA4 price would be between $300 to $1000:

AMD talks RDNA 4 advancements and RX 9070 series Pricing - OC3D

Frank Azor has started talking about AMD Radeon RX 9070 GPU pricing and performance. Expect a full deep dive at a later event.

overclock3d.net

The Radeon RX 7800 XT and RX 7900 GRE offered aggressive pricing for their performance. The market responded well in a market where prices are constantly rising. AMD continues to focus on being a value-for-money company. When we announce RDNA4, we’re going to announce a powerful graphics card. It’s not going to be a $300 card, but it’s not going to be a $1,000 card either.


We’re going to have something that most people will say is a good product at a good price. We think people will really like it. Its balance of power and price will be similar to the RX 7800 XT and RX 7900 GRE.

So what is the problem then? Launch the RX9070 at £480 and the RX9070XT at £540,as these were the RRP prices for both the cards. Unless their definition of mainstream was going to be the RX9070 series above $600. It makes me wonder whether the $300 quote was the minimum pricing for the 128 bit Navi 44 dGPUs.

 

[SuperElectric]

What a disaster, AMD completely bamboozled by a relatively boring NVIDIA lineup.

What were they expecting? The 5070 and 5070Ti from NVIDIA's own data are about 20% faster than the previous gen (plus/minus 5%), for about the same price (plus/minus $50). Totally run of the mill, standard, minimum price/performance increase.

NVIDIA couldn't be more boring if they tried, yet this was enough for AMD to effectively unlaunch their GPUs . Surely they should have prepared for this possibility? If NVIDIA had done something crazy (+50%), I'd understand the panic, but this is just pathetic.

So AMD need to renegotiate with retailers/distributors/AIBs?

 

[tommybhoy]

Lol. So AMD could not have managed this any better yes? It is all the fault of the interwebz?

You are trying to put words in my mouth-twice now-even after quoting you specifically on what I said to @Gerard .:thumbsdown

Every single trolling/baiting that goes on in this thread by others is irrelevant to me, if I wanted to be dragged into all the hyperbole you and others thrive on, I'd be partaking mate, no?

I purchase my gpus on review data. then and only the then will I'll decide to keep the 79XTX/4070 and buy nothing for the first time ever since before 6800GT.

As DLSS4's made a drastic improvement over NV's recently official debunking of the DLSS2 better thanNative narrative, Nv's now peaked my interest with the DF vid showcasing DLSS4, after revealing 6 years of DLSS2's IQ deficiences, there's now a 4070 to 5070ti/80 itch started for the 4K/QHDUW, because DLSS4 IQ is looking very, very good and QHDUW@240Hz with MFG!:thumbsup

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

What a disaster, AMD completely bamboozled by a relatively boring NVIDIA lineup.

What were they expecting? The 5070 and 5070Ti from NVIDIA's own data are about 20% faster than the previous gen (plus/minus 5%), for about the same price (plus/minus $50). Totally run of the mill, standard, minimum price/performance increase.

NVIDIA couldn't be more boring if they tried, yet this was enough for AMD to effectively unlaunch their GPUs . Surely they should have prepared for this possibility? If NVIDIA had done something crazy (+50%), I'd understand the panic, but this is just pathetic.

So AMD need to renegotiate with retailers/distributors/AIBs?

Totally agreed.

If they had underpriced their cards, its very easy to increase the RRP. However, this panic from them seems to strongly indicate that they wanted to charge more, but now have to either rebate existing cards, or find extra performance to justify the price.

Remember how they priced the RX7900XT relative to unlaunched RTX4080 12GB? Then got jebaited by Nvidia with a $50 cheaper RTX4070TI which wasn't great value.

They tried overpricing the Ryzen 9000 CPUs too and the B840 chipset is apparently a rebadged A620.