*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Martini1991]

£200 less than a 5070ti might tempt people tho.

Some people sure.

But replacing items that already exist for similar performance for similar price isn't a seller

 

[Murphy]

That's DOA

Depends on how its competitor performs, i can't see how the 5070 would perform better than a 7900 XT so if the 9070 XT replaces that for £550 to £599 i suspect it would be tempting to a good few people, it would for me.

 

[Boomstick777]

The guy has the RX 9070 XT Red Devil Limited Edition in front of him, isnt he talking about that card as we all know how much of a premium they go for.

Anyway if the 9070's are more than $550 then I'll just grab a 5070, still at 1080p but running 4 displays, I dont need anything more than a 5070 to be honest.

Even at 1080P, it may not be worth be buying a brand new GPU that has less than 16GB.

 

[Martini1991]

Depends on how its competitor performs, i can't see how the 5070 would perform better than a 7900 XT so if the 9070 XT replaces that for £550 to £599 i suspect it would be tempting to a good few people, it would for me.

But AMD have already offered products with slightly better price/performance and it's done nothing for them

There's seemingly nothing new with this release to anything that's come before it.

Except maybe in this case AMD actually pulled their launch because of how concerned they were about how they were pricing them lol

 

[uscool]

That's DOA

£500-£550 is my budget so I'd get the 9070xt over the 5070 and 5070ti, I'm coming from 3080

 

[Firegod]

There's seemingly nothing new with this release to anything that's come before it.

Machine Learning FSR4 and (supposidly) vastly improved RT performance. That's two new things, surely?

 

[ICDP]

But AMD have already offered products with slightly better price/performance and it's done nothing for them

There's seemingly nothing new with this release to anything that's come before it.

Except maybe in this case AMD actually pulled their launch because of how concerned they were about how they were pricing them lol

It is worth factoring in much improved RT and better FSR. So at £600 with 10% more raster and 50% better RT than a 7900 XT, it would render the 7900 XT pointless at the same price.

I’m not saying £600 is great, just acceptable if it is 5070Ti level performance for £150 less.

 

[Murphy]

But AMD have already offered products with slightly better price/performance and it's done nothing for them

No they haven’t, they've been doing what Nvidia have been doing for ten years or more. They asked people to pay more for more performance only to realise that copying their competitors strategy of asking for 20% more money for 20% more performance leave customers with little choice.

 

[Martini1991]

Machine Learning FSR4 and (supposidly) vastly improved RT performance. That's two new things, surely?

Nvidia already there though.

At the end of the day, we'll see if in 2 years time AMD's market share has improved.

As someone who exclusively buys AMD cards, I suspect they won't have done anything to move the dial.

AMD are still no where to be seen in the laptop market with their GPU's (Albeit they've got some very very good products, although price is prohibitive like the new Z Flow)

 

[Martini1991]

It is worth factoring in much improved RT and better FSR. So at £600 with 10% more raster and 50% better RT than a 7900 XT, it would render the 7900 XT pointless at the same price.

I’m not saying £600 is great, just acceptable if it is 5070Ti level performance for £150 less.

But the 7900XT wasn't doing anything to turn the tide with what it's offered for 2 years lol.

And I built machines with 7900XT/7900XTX's for friends.

 

[MyBrainz]

Even at 1080P, it may not be worth be buying a brand new GPU that has less than 16GB.

I see your point but I only play DayZ which never sees over 6GB VRAM usage so 12GB should be good.

Also, since Second Life added 2K texture uploads for creator use Im starting to max 8GB and I get crashes if I dont lower some settings so hopefully 12GB covers that.

Obviously if the 9070/XT come in at good prices I'll surely jump on one of those to get me back on an all AMD system again

 

[StarShock]

I wonder what the market share would look like if they included the semi-custom chip market

 

[ICDP]

But the 7900XT wasn't doing anything to turn the tide with what it's offered for 2 years lol.

And I built machines with 7900XT/7900XTX's for friends.

Not at it’s original MSRP no, but had it released at £650 it would have been far better received.

 

[Martini1991]

£500-£550 is my budget so I'd get the 9070xt over the 5070 and 5070ti, I'm coming from 3080

I've got no skin in the game but looking at a 7900XT review, I wouldn't be impressed in that type of upgrade if the 9070XT is indeed that type of performance unless it was like super cheap.

 

[Martini1991]

Not at it’s original MSRP no, but had it released at £650 it would have been far better received.

7900XT did release at a poor price, I agree with that.

I think people are just setting themselves for an outcome that won't happen.

I mean, I've watched this scenario play out so many times before lol.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

If they are targeting 7900XT performance, then they better be coming in way under 7900XT price. Modern gamer’s desperation for new cards to cost the same, or more, is wild.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Machine Learning FSR4 and (supposidly) vastly improved RT performance. That's two new things, surely?

It is worth factoring in much improved RT and better FSR. So at £600 with 10% more raster and 50% better RT than a 7900 XT, it would render the 7900 XT pointless at the same price.

I’m not saying £600 is great, just acceptable if it is 5070Ti level performance for £150 less.

I mean FSR and RT aren't new, they've been in previous generations.
Also Nvidia has offered better levels of both for the past 2+ years. So they're not offering anything new, just improved over the previous AMD versions.

And we've seen numerous polls and had endless conversations where it's apparent that a lot of people don't prioritise or care about RT.
We've also been told that while DLSS is better that FSR3 was fine, so as good as FSR4 might be, FSR3 was fine. I'm sure most people would rather play at native resolution anyway.

 

[uscool]

I've got no skin in the game but looking at a 7900XT review, I wouldn't be impressed in that type of upgrade if the 9070XT is indeed that type of performance unless it was like super cheap.

If the performance leaked is true it's close to 4080/s I think it's worthwhile , if it's around £500-£550 and looks like a much better deal then 5070 12gb

 

[Sumanji]

Well, at least on Feb 19/20 we'll know what AMD will be competing against...

GeForce RTX 5070 Ti launches February 20, first reviews drop February 19 - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA sets the date for RTX 5070 Ti The first 5070 card launching in three weeks. NVIDIA has just released updated embargo information for the RTX 5070 Ti. The company initially planned to launch this card on February 14, but the date has been pushed back to the following week due to Chinese...

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[Alexrose1uk]

I've got no skin in the game but looking at a 7900XT review, I wouldn't be impressed in that type of upgrade if the 9070XT is indeed that type of performance unless it was like super cheap.

Thats what my wife did, due to a decent deal on a second hand Nitro 7900XT. Shes on a 3840x1600 ultrawide, and the 7900XT runs noticeably better than her 3080 10GB (which was essentially a rebranded Zotac card), so its a bigger jump, especially at higher res/VRAM limited scenarios than you'd think.
It's not just the averages, the minimums were noticeably higher and it just general feels smoother.

The 3080 is a great card, but it does run out of steam strangely a bit at times, especially once you're running 1440p or higher, where the 10GB starts to become an issue.

She's always had a decent amount of RAM and a competent CPU so it wasn't that; like I say, was a noticeable difference. The 7900XT, the Nitro being as substantial as it is, also runs considerably cooler and quieter on average, its just a better OOBE, albeit the Nitro IS one of the best 7900XT variants so it might not have been such a decent jump with more of an OEM/Stock sort of job.