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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

We all know they won’t come in at £550 for the 9070XT and I have a nagging fear they’re going to charge £699 or even £799 for the msrp models.
Traditionally the $400 price point gave previous gen 80 performance. The 7800XT was $500 and matched the previous gen 3080, that wasn’t really considered great value so if AMD now want to charge $700+ for last gen 80 performance and that’s supposedly going after market share then that’ll be a major fail.
 
I don't expect it to be 7800XT standard but it's around 4060 performance. Worse, because of the CPU overhead/drivers/DX9

It's not good enough for the asking price. Sort the CPU overheard increase performance by ~20% and then I'll consider it.
Solving the CPU overhead won't increase performance by 20% just open it up for use with less powerful CPUs which of course would help a lot. That said, a 5700X3D would power this thing just fine and can be had for not much. Drivers need more work, your absolutely correct on this, with this in mind though, I personally didn't experience anything OS breaking while running the B580 and there is a fix/workaround for the horrible DX9 performance which is to use DXVK Vulkan wrapper. It's an old trick that has been around forever so it is surprising to me that Intel haven't baked it into their driver as a toggle for DX9 games.

However, when all is said and done, 3070/RX 6700 XT performance is not much when your trying to push above 1440p performance and/or maximum details in new titles. But for your casual 1080p and up to 1440p gamer its a valid option and its valid because of the similar options from Nvidia and AMD are priced so poorly or specced horribly or both.
 
Solving the CPU overhead won't increase performance by 20% just open it up for use with less powerful CPUs which of course would help a lot. That said, a 5700X3D would power this thing just fine and can be had for not much. Drivers need more work, your absolutely correct on this, with this in mind though, I personally didn't experience anything OS breaking while running the B580 and there is a fix/workaround for the horrible DX9 performance which is to use DXVK Vulkan wrapper. It's an old trick that has been around forever so it is surprising to me that Intel haven't baked it into their driver as a toggle for DX9 games.

However, when all is said and done, 3070/RX 6700 XT performance is not much when your trying to push above 1440p performance and/or maximum details in new titles. But for your casual 1080p and up to 1440p gamer its a valid option and its valid because of the similar options from Nvidia and AMD are priced so poorly or specced horribly or both.

Theres 7700XT. But I'd probably want to pay £300 for it at the most.
 
What do we think?

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I think its going to land here and start £650 but actually cost that with high end AIB models costing £750.


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But generally, Sapphire Nitro and Powercolor Red Devil (to which I can attest myself) are the "Strix" and "Suprim" equivalents on the AMD side.

I remember Powercolor being the one brand to avoid years ago, fair play to them. Maybe AMD should hire some of their marketing staff :)
 
Must be why people were buying 7900XTX's for $800.

I did notice that......

AMD make it £600, AIB's can charge more but have some that are £600 and actually £600, most people will appreciate that.
 
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I remember Powercolor being the one brand to avoid years ago, fair play to them. Maybe AMD should hire some of their marketing staff :)

I've had quite a few Powercolor cards over the years and theyve been great. Only one that was an issue was years ago, a 5870 liquid LCS that had bad VRAM - they replaced it, no issue.
 
There are only a couple of GPUs with more VRAM and only a handful of GPUs that can beat it. So in that respect, I'd say it's great and would keep one for many years to come. Obviously depends on how much folks care about raytracing, as much as 9070XT will improve on that front, I don't think folks will be buying them for the ray-tracing performance, especially as most games still don't use it or have it as an option that drains FPS, with little gain in visual quality.


I like their better naming scheme, the existing names are so confusing as to what's what in the lineup. That quicksilver looks nice and with only 2x8pins. If it has 0 rpm mode and compares well to the Sapphire Pulse, it could be a decent alternative option.

Also, not wanting to add fuel to the rumour/hype fire... but Paul got another package with the lately arrived review 5070ti and he's excited for this other package...
Why would he be excited? Is it a GPU? Is it an AMD GPU? :eek:


These terrible Nvidia launches have been the biggest opportunity AMD has ever had on the GPU front...
For the love of PC gaming AMD... don't mess this up!

The problem you have is the bigger and more open the goal the easier AMD find it to miss it.

I'm now expecting it to be 699 -750 for the 9070xt.

The only thing AMD is consistent in is missing an open goal.

I hope i'm wrong but i'm setting myself up for disappointment now so i'm not disappointed on announcement day.
 
5070ti is basically 4080s performance. Leaks suggest the 9070xt is pushing 4080 performance. AMD if they are serious will price the xt max $599 vs $750 ti msrp.
 
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