*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Steve Bruce]

I've been driving myself nuts debating returning my xtx and trying to get something newer but having tried loads of new games and looking at benchmarks, it's still a beast of a card at 4k, add in lossless scaling and it plays stuff at 4k 144hz brilliantly. There's a number of games with Nvidia sponsored stuff that run relatively poorly but still well.

The XTX is probably the 4th fastest raster card on the market with the 2nd most vram. Unless you can get a 4090 cheap or a 5090 your not going to get any real noticeable improvement on that card

 

[StarShock]

375W is max with two 8 pins and the slot, 150W per 8 pin and 75W through the edge connector.

Ah yeah, I did not that, brain fart

 

[danlightbulb]

The 5070 Ti is a weak uplift, its only 5% faster than the 7900 XT (Timespy benchmark).

I hope that the 9070 XT does better than this.

There would be no point upgrading from 7900 XT and certainly not from XTX.

 

[Bidley]

There would be no point upgrading from 7900 XT and certainly not from XTX.

Was that ever in question? Both those GPUs are high end and AMD said ages ago they wouldn't be competing at that level.

 

[eeii]

Hmmmmm with the new information just come out I cannot see the 9070xt being faster than 7900xt in raster closer to 7900gre.

 

[Steve Bruce]

Hmmmmm with the new information just come out I cannot see the 9070xt being faster than 7900xt in raster closer to 7900gre.

Where did you see that? The last thing I seen was it was likely to fall between the 7900xt and the xtx.

The rumour will probably change 3/4 times again.

 

[humbug]

It’s funny seeing the “AMD need to fight Nvidia” from people you know from their post history, only want it so they can get their Nvidia card cheaper.

“AMD need to fix their drivers”… at least theirs aren’t breaking GPUs

“AMD need to match Nvidia for features”… does that include melting GPUs due to poor power connector design?

I want AMD to be cheap as well but the same poster(s) only a few weeks ago were saying they were happy to purchase a 5080 at £1200 - £1400. Yet somehow it’s all on AMD to “bring the fight to Nvidia”.

The 5070Ti costs £800 to £1000 and is out of stock (most likely poor stock levels as per Nvidia’s plans). To be fair this is being called out. Yet here we are with people in AMD thread lamenting about AMD need to fight Nvidia and “if they charge £700 for this it’s a fail”.

Frankly the way things are if the 9070XT is trading blows with a 5070Ti for £750 or less it will fly off the shelves. I don’t like it but this is down to consumers… not Nvidia or AMD.

You are right in general but i know @jonneymendoza , the person who wrote that, he's a good egg, he doesn't have altera motives like that

 

[McPhee]

Hmmmmm with the new information just come out I cannot see the 9070xt being faster than 7900xt in raster closer to 7900gre.

The 9070 with a Vulcan score only very marginally higher than a 7700 XT? And this is supposed to be a 7900 XT/GRE replacement (according to AMD's own branding slide), with the 9060 XT and 9060 falling in below it in the product stack.

Seems reliable...

 

[michty_me]

Large pinch of salt time from someone having claimed to have used one with a reviewer:

- 9070XT will be roughly 649 based in calculations (had to exclude VAT and AIB tax, so it's rough). Might be 599 or 649, not more I think...
- 9070 seems to be 100 less than that, but the AIB models I had access to were not the same, so... but should be it
- AIB models are higher, but still quite lower than 5070Ti in pricing. Availability, in that specific retailer, is better
- 9070XT Beats the 4080 in select titles, loses in others, it basically ties the 5070Ti... It's mostly what we expected... Sometimes it comes out 5% better, sometimes 5% worse. Maybe, just maybe, 1\2% better on average

 

[Joxeon]

Steve from HW unboxed thinks a 9070XT needs to be $550 if it matches the 5070ti to be a success.

 

[McPhee]

Steve from HW unboxed thinks a 9070XT needs to be $550 if it matches the 5070ti to be a success.

$449 and $549 would be lovely. Something of a reset back to where prices should be. And I suspect a $200 difference vs the 5070 Ti and $400 difference vs the 5080 might actually cause Nvidia to cut their prices.

It seems like a pipedream though.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

If the leaks about the RX9070 being a 220W card are true and if it is close to an RX7900XT that is great news! The RX7700XT was a 245W card and the RX7800XT a 263W card. The RX6700XT was rated for 230W.

A well priced reference spec RX9070 would be easily compatible with a lot of systems with 600W and below PSUs.

 

[will13]

Steve from HW unboxed thinks a 9070XT needs to be $550 if it matches the 5070ti to be a success.

I don't always agree with HW but in this case I think there right, they really need to undercut a good chunk and have stock at launch to get market share

 

[Joxeon]

I don't always agree with HW but in this case I think there right, they really need to undercut a good chunk and have stock at launch to get market share

AMD needs it to be priced at a level which is too good to refuse.

 

[will13]

AMD needs it to be priced at a level which is too good to refuse.

Yeap no £50 cheaper ********, I'm sure FSR4 will be good but your still limited to only FSR3.1 games compared to years of DLSS2+ games that can be upgraded to newest .dll's and RT is gonna be interesting on how close they get to Nvidia

 

[rare]

I think we all know they won’t be at the price level we are hoping.

 

[jonneymendoza]

You are right in general but i know @jonneymendoza , the person who wrote that, he's a good egg, he doesn't have altera motives like that

Thanks!

I was soo confused with that persons post!

 

[Copesman]

Confirmed at 304w and 220w

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT confirmed as 304W card, RX 9070 non-XT is 220W - VideoCardz.com

First details on AMD Radeon RX 9070 series The new information on power specs. The official power metrics for the Radeon RX 9070 series are in. AMD held a press briefing today, and there are new leaks straight from the presentation. The first leak comes from Hoang Anh Phu, a very reliable...

videocardz.com

 

[Steve Bruce]

Yeap no £50 cheaper ********, I'm sure FSR4 will be good but your still limited to only FSR3.1 games compared to years of DLSS2+ games that can be upgraded to newest .dll's and RT is gonna be interesting on how close they get to Nvidia

The problem is, if it's legit £50 cheaper than the 5070ti msrp, that actually means it's £150-200+ cheaper in reality. This is the problem, msrp means damn all especially with nvidia.

Also if nvidia doesn't have decent stock the 5070ti could reach over £1k on the scalpers market which would make AMDs £50 less price look much better as well.

£699 is too much but it could end up being the best card available on the market due lack of stock of anything else and people will buy it. I'm hoping it will be £649 at the very most

 

[humbug]

Steve from HW unboxed thinks a 9070XT needs to be $550 if it matches the 5070ti to be a success.

That's preloading a bad review, he knows there is no way its going to be $300 less than its Nvidia competitor (in some instances half the price) he's setting unrealistic expectations because he doesn't want give it any positivity.

This petty bickering of his with AMD needs to stop.