*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

[Sargatanas2511]

Sapphire Nitro 7900 XTX back in stock at £949.99

The 9070XT will be £899.99 no doubt.

Not sure why you think that but if it is, just don't buy it.

 

[Grim5]

Has a more powerful card ruled out by AMD at this stage?

As this is such a small die with relatively low power draw, surely they can make something that is close to 4090/higher than 5080 performance?

It may have 50% less cores than a 7900xtx but it's still chunky as the 9070xt already has more transistors than a rtx5080

And giving the 9070xt the same number of cores as the 7900xtx would mean a TDP of 500w +, and best case, it would still be about 30% slower than the rtx5090

9070xt is decent but believe it or not rtx5000 is a more efficient architecture so it's difficult to compete at high end

 

[signal11th]

Not sure why you think that but if it is, just don't buy it.

Pretty much this, at 600-700 its worth it anything above than it's not.

 

[BKUK]

Not sure why you think that but if it is, just don't buy it.

Flagship model, afew hundred more than msrp and inflated slightly by retailers for profit. Supply and demand they will all sell out.

 

[BKUK]

Pretty much this, at 600-700 its worth it anything above than it's not.

Some models might be in that range but the flagship won’t be. Really hope I’m wrong but after the nvidia and retailer prices why should anyone be surprised.

 

[t2na]

What's the TLDR. I have a 3070. Didn't like the price of Nvidia 5000 series. Is the 9070 a good upgrade for a few years?

Yep, double the VRAM, will sort you out nicely for 1440p gaming - and at a price that won't break the bank and a GPU that won't potentially burst into flames and burn your house down.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Flagship model, afew hundred more than msrp and inflated slightly by retailers for profit. Supply and demand they will all sell out.

You think the flagship model is going to cost 33% over RRP? That has only happened on special edition water cooled cards.

If people bought that then they would have to be insane.

 

[kieran_read]

Have to say, I think AMD nailed that!

They've listened, to pricing concerns, availability concerns, weaknesses against nVidia.

I'm excited!

I actually think it the presentation was pretty good overall, each segment was well done

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This is a comparison

Rinse and repeat didn't dwell on a specific point for too long, while they did make sure they got their code words in I didn't feel like the waffled while watching it.

 

[Poneros]

Also AMD drivers age well and the cards speed up a lot

Completely false. Hasn't been the case since GCN. In fact, for the past year driver support only got worse. Look at KCD 2 release for example, still waiting for a driver update (missing 20% perf., which you can find easily on Linux f.ex. where you don't have to rely on AMD alone for driver support). They also fired a bunch of their devs in the US and started outsourcing, remembered it today when I saw the Serbian dude come up, which might explain why they've been slacking with the updates lately.

 

[BKUK]

You think the flagship model is going to cost 33% over RRP? That has only happened on special edition water cooled cards.

If people bought that then they would have to be insane.

There are many insane people just lately…. 50 series.

 

[Jono8]

It may have 50% less cores than a 7900xtx but it's still chunky as the 9070xt already has more transistors than a rtx5080

And giving the 9070xt the same number of cores as the 7900xtx would mean a TDP of 500w +

Well it probably doesnt need the same number of cores as the 7900xtx.

Seems unlikely rDNA4 is topped out with this. I expect AMD will release something by the end of the year that at least beats the 5080 and has 24gb/32gb of vram.

 

[santa]

Has a more powerful card ruled out by AMD at this stage?

As this is such a small die with relatively low power draw, surely they can make something that is close to 4090/higher than 5080 performance?

It's monolithic and they've already said they pitched for mid range so no. A new design would be a generation after thing, even then such a massive die would introduce the usual yield issues which I don't think distant 2nd place can risk (unless they make it an AI powerhouse and don't sell it to the likes of us). If you're going to spend big money you're going to do it with nvidia because market leader.

 

[The1nonly1]

March 5th for real performance numbers (reviews)
March 6th for real prices (launch)

Should be close to double the performance for you tho, maybe.

Same as me and yeah after 26 years of Team Nvidia I'm moving over to AMD this time, much cheaper for slightly less performance than a 5070ti (obviously real world reviews will confirm) but coming from a 3070 yeah it's a good upgrade.

I'll see the reviews and make decision. I can't justify Nvidia prices anymore.

 

[The1nonly1]

Yep, double the VRAM, will sort you out nicely for 1440p gaming - and at a price that won't break the bank and a GPU that won't potentially burst into flames and burn your house down.

The 2x 8pin connector is a big plus for me.

 

[Icyseanfitz]

Well that's a pleasant surprise on the price of the 9070xt, 9070 seems like a wasted opportunity at 50 less.

Now my dilemma, I have until Monday to decide to return my 7900xtx or not (970euro) and try to get a 9070xt, will performance be similar at a lower cost I wonder

 

[Rob_brum]

Another 3080 owner here looking at the 9070xt's

I've not had AMD for over 20 years, which brands have a better reputation for overclocking etc? are their any to generally avoid?

 

[Martini1991]

Well it probably doesnt need the same number of cores as the 7900xtx.

Seems unlikely rDNA4 is topped out with this. I expect AMD will release something by the end of the year that at least beats the 5080 and has 24gb/32gb of vram.

They have done this before, look at the 480/580 and the 5700XT

I don't expect anything else to come out, hell with some 9070XT's doing 340W I'm not surprised.

 

[Craig_d1]

Shall i sell my 4070ti super and get the 9070xt?

the 7800 XT at $500 was £480. so £570 to £580.

exchange rate aug 23 was 1.27(when 7800xt launched)...currently 1.26 ...will be interesting to see then how they price it...can't say exchange rate a factor now

 

[Gerard]

I actually think it the presentation was pretty good overall, each segment was well done

This is our feature
This is an example
This is a comparison

Rinse and repeat didn't dwell on a specific point for too long, while they did make sure they got their code words in I didn't feel like the waffled while watching it.

Plus we didn't have someone talking absolute ******** about a midrange card being as fast as the top end of the last gen, and we were spared a gaudy leather jacket. Win win.

 

[1Deep]

Also still on a 3080, it's been 4 years.

50% uplift at the same price..........hmmmmm.......

Need to see how good FSR4 is vs DLSS to make a decision though.