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Martini1991 · 2025-02-28T15:14:59+0000

Every reviewer is basically lambasting them for the price difference with the 9070/9070XT

And that'll negatively effect the reviews.

Why are AMD like this

Parky · 2025-02-28T15:15:16+0000

Seems like a pretty done deal for me, it'll be a nice uplift from a 2080ti at (fingers crossed) a much more sensible price point.

Tempted by that Sapphire card though if the prices are decent, the last team red card I had was a Sapphire HD4870 so it would be a nice way to switch back.

Tinek · 2025-02-28T15:15:34+0000

GhostDog1981 said:
Still AMD have pushed up the price for 70tier though from £500 to £600. They’re a smaller and less ambitious version of Nvidia.

Both companies target mostly enterprise market these days. For AMD Radeon seems to be mostly by-product of the consoles development, not a goal in itself. Still, better consoles (as it's having stuff) than AI which is being forced into gaming even if it's doesn't always make sense.

MissChief · 2025-02-28T15:15:39+0000

GhostDog1981 said:
I liked the XFX one with the RGB. But that’s about it.

I might do the same and wait for a price cut later this year- if doesn’t materialise then wait till UDNA.

It has to be white to match the case and other items. Which leaves me one choice really.

Conanius · 2025-02-28T15:17:09+0000

I'll be looking for an ASRock RX 9070 XT Taichi.

Waiting for the 9900X3D and 9950X3D news to work out the cpu change.

Yes, its all minor, but its also a hobby so

Alexrose1uk · 2025-02-28T15:18:02+0000

@Gibbo - now the prices have been unveiled, and they're lower than you were anticipating yesterday, somewhat substantially in the case of the 9070XT (IIRC you said $649-749 expected), where does that leave real world UK pricing looking?

Are you able to advise how stock is looking for launch day in a week, given the rumours these have been stockpiling for a month or so?

Firegod · 2025-02-28T15:18:07+0000

And still telling myself these are AMD's mid-range cards. Exciting to see how they push this for when they return to high end, because these numbers look impressive so far (benchies next week). I mean for me personally a 6900XT they said across 30+ games at 4k saw a 51% improvement. I paid £699 for the 6900XT. If these do come in cheaper at retailers than that, and offer the performance, wow. I think that is a good perf/£ ratio personally.

Poneros · 2025-02-28T15:18:28+0000

sx_turbo said:
200 dollars cheaper for essentially parity on products?

But it's not parity...

Ayahuasca said:
So effectively a 1080p render resolution then as I said and while performance mode is certainly better on the new transformer model, there's still a very noticeable drop in IQ. With my 5080 and DLSS at 3440x1440 resolution, Cyberpunk still has performance issues in certain areas when all settings are maxed out. At 4K resolution with a 5070Ti and DLSS, you'll face trade-offs: either compromised image quality, increased latency when MFG is enabled, or less-than-ideal frame rates. It's playable, but expect some sacrifices.

These AMD cards aren't aimed at people who want the best PT experience; that stuff is still very much the tip of the spear, and nVidia's own products still struggle with it outside of the 4090 and 5090.

There's always trade-offs, it's about the relative difference in the end because that's what the decision will rest on. There's a big difference between being somewhat picky for hitting 55 fps instead of locking 60 versus not even getting 30 fps. Even with a 5090 you'll make a trade-off because then the temptation is to up the ray # & steps (or would be for me). Personally I'm happy even with FSR/XeSS (DP4A) Performance mode at 4K, so DLSS is even better, though I also play in UW (3840x1620), so would be enough to cap 120 w/ FG which is my TV's max anyway until I get an LG G5.

Tinek said:
"But Nvidia software stack!" is the usual response.

And is it not true?

welshrat · 2025-02-28T15:19:14+0000

Will this is great news. Have to decide now whether I will grow to love the mesh or whether I still jump on powercolor. Feel I may regret not getting a nitro despite it being ugly

Shogun_Krayt · 2025-02-28T15:19:26+0000

Tinek said:
Both companies target mostly enterprise market these days. For AMD Radeon seems to be mostly by-product of the consoles development, not a goal in itself. Still, better consoles (as it's having stuff) than AI which is being forced into gaming even if it's doesn't always make sense.

AMD can't really compete with Nvidia on the ML/AI angle due to CUDA being such an integral part of most out of the box pipelines. Gaming is all they have

Firegod · 2025-02-28T15:19:45+0000

Alexrose1uk said:
@Gibbo - now the prices have been unveiled, and they're lower than you were anticipating yesterday, somewhat substantially in the case of the 9070XT (IIRC you said $649-749 expected), where does that leave real world UK pricing looking?

Are you able to advise how stock is looking for launch day in a week, given the rumours these have been stockpiling for a month or so?

He's mentioned stock should be amble here.

* The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill *

MicroCenter lists Radeon RX 9070 series: RX 9070 XT starting at $699, RX 9070 at $649 50 USD difference, jfc.

forums.overclockers.co.uk

Alexrose1uk · 2025-02-28T15:20:03+0000

Nvidia's software stack is good, and it's better than AMDs in some ways, $50-100 worth IMO. It's not worth $200-300 though unless you explicitly need something they have.

uscool · 2025-02-28T15:20:33+0000

Martini1991 said:
Every reviewer is basically lambasting them for the price difference with the 9070/9070XT

And that'll negatively effect the reviews.

Why are AMD like this

Yeah missed an opportunity to really bury the 5070 and no doubts which to buy

Another $50 off both would have done it

Tarqy · 2025-02-28T15:22:11+0000

Grim5 said:
The only 9070XT you need

The ultimate in collectors edition and may or may not have been dunked in Asian Bell Delphine's bath water

I've heard rumours of a water cooled version, she's a squirter....

Alexrose1uk · 2025-02-28T15:22:22+0000

Firegod said:
He's mentioned stock should be amble here.

*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

MicroCenter lists Radeon RX 9070 series: RX 9070 XT starting at $699, RX 9070 at $649 50 USD difference, jfc.

forums.overclockers.co.uk

Sort of, he's not really commited on whether the MSRP is viable or not though at the stock levels, I'd like to hear from the horses mouth now they'll be recieving proper information from partners/distributors.

Martini1991 · 2025-02-28T15:23:41+0000

Remember when multi GPU was a thing
2 9070XT's would be banging

Martini1991 · 2025-02-28T15:25:05+0000

uscool said:
Yeah missed an opportunity to really bury the 5070 and no doubts which to buy

Another $50 off both would have done it

Nah another $50 off both is still the same issue between the 2 lol

Would have loved $450 and $550 though

Ross Thomson · 2025-02-28T15:25:18+0000

so Its AMD - 50 for the pricing.

ProStreet · 2025-02-28T15:25:39+0000

Selling my 5090 to get the 9070xt. It's done. Amd you did it.

AMDPower · 2025-02-28T15:27:19+0000

Icyseanfitz said:
Well that's a pleasant surprise on the price of the 9070xt, 9070 seems like a wasted opportunity at 50 less.

Now my dilemma, I have until Monday to decide to return my 7900xtx or not (970euro) and try to get a 9070xt, will performance be similar at a lower cost I wonder

I would 100% send it back, you can initiate a refund but I believe you have 14 or 30 days to send it back depending on retailer, just check. Worst case it will be same price but at least you get better Ray tracing, but at best it will be £600.