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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

people that would spend more money on a 9070 with a slightly better cooler or some lights
You answered your own question right here. There are always going to be end users that don't mind spending that extra £25 to £75 to get the PCB, shroud, lighting in their preferred colours.
 
Ive said it once, ive said it a million times.

People only want cheap AMD cards to force Nvidia's pricing down. AMD cant win, but I do suspect the success in the CPU market may start to change their image somewhat.
Maybe that is the case but for that to happen enough people have to buy AMD in the first place before Nvidia drops its price and if AMD is not deemed cheap enough then that will not happen.
 
So if AMD's first party performance numbers are to be believed, and they've not over egged them, to me it seems RDNA 4 is a bit meh, it's not bad and the improvement they've made are good but it's not exactly a game changer in terms of price/performance.

If their direct competitor manages to up the supply of their counterpart cards so they hit MSRP, or even worse lowers that MSRP by $50-100, they're pretty much boned.
 
So if AMD's first party performance numbers are to be believed, and they've not over egged them, to me it seems RDNA 4 is a bit meh, it's not bad and the improvement they've made are good but it's not exactly a game changer in terms of price/performance.

If their direct competitor manages to up the supply of their counterpart cards so they hit MSRP, or even worse lowers that MSRP by $50-100, they're pretty much boned.
Nvidia's MSRPs are fake. If AMD's MSRP are real then the price to performance is 9/10.
 
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"Blurghbargbum!" - could just as well say that and it would have exactly same power in explaining their constant high growth in enterprise - financial reports don't lie. :) Unlike Nvidia, AMD provides majority of CPUs for the enterprise now too, GPUs aren't their main thing. Even if AI vanished today, they would be just fine (Nvidia wouldn't). But if you missed it, there are free solutions (e.g. ZLUDA) allowing running CUDA code on AMD GPUs, often faster than native. Also, they already said they have plenty of orders for over million of AI GPUs in summary and growing.
 
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599 for a card that potentially matches and beats a 5070Ti is a really good look from AMD. That same 70Ti card that you can't find available right now due to another Nvidia paper launch and, if you do, you'll have the lucky dip of 'it might burn your entire house down because you didn't jackhammer the power connector in', or 'it might have shipped with 10% less performance' or, my fave, 'it might have cost you a grand' - or all 3!

I miss having certain Nvidia features but honestly, this 5000 series launch has done nothing but push me further into picking up another AMD GPU - and the solid pricing of the 9070XT has helped from that side.
 
Nvidia's MSRPs are fake. If AMD's MSRP are real then the price to performance is 9/10.
Blimey, i wish people would read the entire post before responding.

What part of "If their direct competitor manages to up the supply of their counterpart cards so they hit MSRP...." wasn't clear?
 
So if AMD's first party performance numbers are to be believed, and they've not over egged them, to me it seems RDNA 4 is a bit meh, it's not bad and the improvement they've made are good but it's not exactly a game changer in terms of price/performance.

If their direct competitor manages to up the supply of their counterpart cards so they hit MSRP, or even worse lowers that MSRP by $50-100, they're pretty much boned.
If you overlook the reviews, missing ROPs, flaming power connectors, yeah, 50x0 is great!
 
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