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Angilion said:
£630 is currently $802.75

Check conversion rates yourself if you don't believe me.
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Yes, but the msrp doesn't have vat on it, the ocuk price does.

Edit, also fun fact imports don't use the live exchange rate, customs sets a rate of exchange for each currency at the start of each month and that gets used for imports, so just using the live exchange rate is always going to give a slightly skewed number
 
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champ222 said:
ASUS Prime "near MSRP" was nonsense, Though i suppose it was always going to be with Asus
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find the prime boards fairly 'meh'. meant to be msrp cards..same as for the 5000 series yet someone boughta 5080 prime as decided t osend it back..he bought it for over£1400 and had receipt etc..offered it out before sending it back, linking asus website which had it at £975 rrp... some real FOMO scalping by shop/aib going on there
 
Sumanji said:
Do you understand the concept of sales tax?
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Obviously. It's a tax at the point of sale. The clue's in the name. If you have any difficulty with the concept, I'll be happy to explain it to you.

Now can you explain how it's relevant to the question I asked?

StarShock said:
Yes, but the msrp doesn't have vat on it, the ocuk price does.
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Yes, and how is that relevant to the question I asked?

Granted, it's relevant to buyers who can claim the card as a VAT-exempt business expense. But that's not most sales of a gaming-orientated graphics card.
 
Angilion said:
I'd suggest waiting a bit to see the effects of undervolting a 9070XT. It's not uncommon for undervolting to result in a large decrease in power consumption for little or no decrease in performance. Sometimes even a large decrease in power consumption and an increase in performance. I've had that happen myself. Sometimes cards are shipped de facto overvolted by default in order to chase bigger numbers for a max clock speed and end up being throttled on power draw and/or temps as a result, so undervolting reduces the throttling and thus increases actual performance (even if the max clock speed is a bit lower). The most extreme example I can recall personally was a Radeon 7950, the first card I undervolted. IIRC the result of undervolting was ~20C lower temps and ~15% performance improvement.
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I was thinking about undervolting, can you undervolt AMD like NVIDIA in AfterBurner where you can set a maximum voltage/frequency?
 
kieran_read said:
Thank you!!

Someone was calling me out earlier, and i'm watching the Video now and I was right, also if anyone wants to watch it someones left some time stamps in the comments on that video of all the times GN hinted at the AMD cards performance in most of them he's talking about and comparing the 9070 to the 7900xt.
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Lol just watched all the time stamps. tomorrow should be a fun day :-)
 
TheZombieMaster said:
Can we buy the cards tomorrow or Thursday? :O
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It's Thursday for 9070 and 9070 XT....

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Jamie Gilbert said:
I was thinking about undervolting, can you undervolt AMD like NVIDIA in AfterBurner where you can set a maximum voltage/frequency?
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You certainly could in the past (that's how I did it in the past) and you probably could today, but nowadays I use the Adrenaline software from AMD that comes with the graphics card drivers. And (for no reason I can explain) I haven't undervolted my 7800XT. I've undervolted my Ryzen 5700X from day 1, first with Ryzen Master software to test and then in the BIOS when I was sure it was a stable undervolt.

Now I mention it, I really don't know why I haven't undervolted my 7800XT. Undervolting is usually the first thing I do with a new CPU or graphics card.
 
StarShock said:
Yes, but the msrp doesn't have vat on it, the ocuk price does.

Edit, also fun fact imports don't use the live exchange rate, customs sets a rate of exchange for each currency at the start of each month and that gets used for imports, so just using the live exchange rate is always going to give a slightly skewed number
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I work in exports, the system normally works it out for me, but if I need to manually work out currency conversions you use the official UK Gov exchange rate they are updated monthly.

www.gov.uk

[Withdrawn] Exchange rates from HMRC in CSV and XML format

Check the foreign exchange monthly rates, yearly averages, spot rates and weekly amendments to rates (from HMRC in CSV and XML format).
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

It would depend on when OCUK paid for their cards, 1.27 in Jan, 1.23 in Feb, 1.25 in March.
 
Sumanji said:
Obviously not.

You are comparing the MSRP which does not include sales tax, with UK retail pricing which does.
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I'm comparing the price customers pay with the MSRP. Which is the relevant comparison for the question I asked, the point I raised about AMD judging the effect of the pricing compared with the initial pricing of the Radeon 7000 series.

Your sneering may make you feel superior, but it has nothing to do with that point.
 
SuperElectric said:
I think people misunderstood steve's hints, he said the 9070 non-xt was comparable to the 7900 XT. The point was to convince you not to buy the 5070 tomorrow and wait for the 9070 non-xt reviews.
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9070 review is also tomorrow
But, the 5070 didn't look a million miles off the 7900XT to be honest.

I'm pretty convinced both of those cards needs a price drop
 
kieran_read said:
I work in exports, the system normally works it out for me, but if I need to manually work out currency conversions you use the official UK Gov exchange rate they are updated monthly.

www.gov.uk

[Withdrawn] Exchange rates from HMRC in CSV and XML format

Check the foreign exchange monthly rates, yearly averages, spot rates and weekly amendments to rates (from HMRC in CSV and XML format).
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

It would depend on when OCUK paid for their cards, 1.27 in Jan, 1.23 in Feb, 1.25 in March.
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Exactly, in the case of the little maths I did above using the live 1.27 exchange rate and getting 666 if I had used the official hmrc 1.25 I would have got 656. And 645 if they came in in Feb, moving it even closer to msrp.

Just meant that its difficult to ascertain the actual base price by only looking at the live exchange rate.
 
Angilion said:
I wonder if AMD will be judging the effect of this gen's pricing based on MSRP or actual prices.

US$600 MSRP shows that AMD have learnt something from the Radeon 7000 series release, but no doubt they'll be looking at sales to judge the effect.

Cheapest price in the UK looks to be US$800, ~34% above MSRP. So if AMD look at UK sales to judge the effect of their pricing for the Radeon 9000 series, are they going to be assuming that the cards sell for US$600 in the UK and assuming the US$600 MSRP was a failure in terms of increasing sales in the UK? What's the pricing like in other countries?
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I guess to look at the core of your question, amd would no doubt compare to previous UK launches, all of which would have had vat included in the retail price and go from there. So the 500usd 7800xt for instance, selling for 650ish usd once converted
 
Sparky said:
From what Jay was saying earlier the 9070 is up there with the 5070
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But that's automatically a fail
The 5070 is getting roasted

The only reason there's any hope with the 9070XT is 5070ti performance $150 cheaper

I think the performance will range a lot depending on RT titles

5070 can be anywhere from ahead slightly to equal to a decent 10-20 percent behind a 7900XT
 
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