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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Vega was the last time that happened IIRC.
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Vega was exactly the launch I was thinking of. AMD announced an MSRP, but when the reviews came out, that MSRP was for a limited number of cards. The real MSRP was $100 more expensive. And if I remember correctly, Gibbo made a similar post in the days before Vega Launched warning about the MSRP been for a capped number of cards.

This is the first AMD launch since then that a rebate scheme has been mentioned. So AMD might be doing the same again. Taking a loss on a limited number of cards to get interest and sales up.

Obviously I am hoping that's not the case. All I am saying, is that it might not be just sales talk from Gibbo. As AMD have done this before.
 
melmac said:
Vega was exactly the launch I was thinking of. AMD announced an MSRP, but when the reviews came out, that MSRP was for a limited number of cards. The real MSRP was $100 more expensive. And if I remember correctly, Gibbo made a similar post in the days before Vega Launched warning about the MSRP been for a capped number of cards.

This is the first AMD launch since then that a rebate scheme has been mentioned. So AMD might be doing the same again. Taking a loss on a limited number of cards to get interest and sales up.

Obviously I am hoping that's not the case. All I am saying, is that it might not be just sales talk from Gibbo. As AMD have done this before.
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After looking at the cards,I suspected this might be the case. Most RX9070 non-XT don't look built down to a lower price and might be overvolted to justify higher street prices.

But either way hopefully I can nab an RRP RX9070 or RX9070XT card tommorrow.
 
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I'm tempted with the Asrock models, I've just built a new PC with an Asrock X870E Nova... should pair well aesthetically. The Mobo is a thing of beauty. I can't see a dark version of the Steel Legion model though, only the white. Is this correct?
 
robj20 said:
Is there any point getting something like the Nitro+ over the Pulse and just OCing yourself?
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Yes/no/maybe.

The cheapest cards are always the best value. The more expensive ones have (in theory) better cooling, are meant to be better looking, and might have some extra lighting and features (e.g. the hidden power connector on the Nitro+).

The cooling on 9070 XT models looks pretty good across the board though. And some of the cheaper cards (e.g. Pulse, Reaper) are decent looking cards.
 
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harmattan said:
It looks like XFX has significantly beefed up their Mag Air card (now "Mercury Mag") to be their top-end model and it will be the highest clocked (and thickest) of the bunch. This is the one I'm going for.

XFX Mercury AMD Radeon RX 9070XT OC Magnetic Air Edition with RGB

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www.xfxforce.com www.xfxforce.com
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There doesn't seem to be any XFX 9070 series available anywhere here in the UK. Else I'd have been interested in the mid-tier if it was under £600, which now I realise there is fat chance of.
ICDP said:
What was the exchange rate when they were bought by the retailer? The ballpark is like for like USD vs GBP post VAT and import charges.
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This is the same nonsense the retailers, including here, peddled when the GTX 1000 series launched and UK pricing was terrible. I was the only one complaining about the poor pricing and that buying at those prices, just gave all in the supply chain confidence, that consumers are capable of being rinsed for more. Now look where we are... rinse and repeat. This whole generation is the pre-scalped generation. What a load of tosh.
humbug said:
I can't find the video but there is footage of the 9070 XT reference design inside a demo case at CES, it does seem to look like the renders.

They existed. I'm guessing AMD cancelled the reference cards due to pressure from board partners, reference cards have been a bone of contention with them especially given that AMD's recent designs are not just capable but also have a tasteful quality aesthetic that is quite appealing to people, me for example, i don't like very busy complex gamery designs that a lot of them go with, the mat black RDNA 3 designs are really quite elegant with just a little cheeky flair with the 3 red fins.

Its a shame to lose them now as they become EOL.

They are good designs and AIB's find that quite annoying, especially when those cards also set the base price, AMD went through the expense of designing these coolers, and its not cheep, there is a lot of engineering involved and good quality artists are also not cheep, what a shame they never saw the light of day....
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A real shame they cancelled reference models. They would have been the one to get for best value, though I bet they'd still be pre-scalped for the buyer's convenience. How is it that AIBs tolerate Nvidia's nonsense (except EVGA who left) and yet AMD aren't allowed to release nice reference cards?
[timko] said:
Not that this should surprise anyone but here's confirmation that there will only be a limited quantity at MSRP during launch. So if you want one that cheap then get it quick otherwise you could be waiting for months for it to come back down, if it ever does.

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MSRP my rear. The 10x price hints show nothing under £600. It it was MSRP, then there'd be models going for £599.99 at most. This really is just sales tactics and nonsense. And even if they did have some at a different price... how would they sell them? Suddenly change pricing hours into launch like they were doing with the Nvidia 5090/5080s?

It infuriates me that greed once again seems to rule the roost and that folks are willing to accept it. Even if this time it's not AMD themselves necessarily to blame.
 
McPhee said:
The cheapest cards are always the best value. The more expensive ones have (in theory) better cooling, are meant to be better looking, and might have some extra lighting and features (e.g. the hidden power connector on the Nitro+).
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Yeah but in some cases it's overkill especially on a slower clocked mid tier chip .... Let's take for example my 5070 TI ... Card weight 2 fooooookkkin kilos and is barely breaking sweat on load - recorded 50C max temps so the cooling is overkill
But hell yeah it does look sik :cry:
 
Chrisc said:
#1 Sapphire
#2 Powercolour

Without seeing any in depth reviews id go with the above. If those are unavailable, id personally do a bit more research.

I had a Strix Vega64 and that thing was so Hot, I RMA'd it.
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hah! i had once of those too.
likewise ran hot and eventually died.
only good thing about that asus card was the 3yr warranty, got a refund of £330 which went a long way toward subsidizing the cost of an RX 6800 XT in a pre-built during lockdown.
 
mahius said:
MSRP my rear. The 10x price hints show nothing under £600. It it was MSRP, then there'd be models going for £599.99 at most. This really is just sales tactics and nonsense. And even if they did have some at a different price... how would they sell them? Suddenly change pricing hours into launch like they were doing with the Nvidia 5090/5080s?
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Because you know 100% for sure that the "10x prices" are the final prices that the cards will be sold at? Even with the 5090 launch the placeholder prices were being adjusted both up and down right up until the last second
 
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