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uscool · Monday at 19:21

Grim5 said:
If the 8800xt is as fast as the rtx4080 in raster and RT and uses 15% less power then that's not bad imo - it just needs a sharp price

The 4080 is $999, so I think the 8800xt should be under $700

For the people thinking it will be $300, what are you smoking? Why would AMD charge $300 when Nvidia is charging $999 right now

But current 4080 performance should be next gens 5070 performance if you look at past trends , 5070 shouldn't be $999 , more mid tier pricing

Grim5 · Monday at 19:24

uscool said:
But 4080 next gen performance should be 5070 if you look at past trends , 5070 shouldn't be $999 , more mid tier pricing

We don't know that yet, you can't make these assumptions about Nvidia, the 5070 might be slower than a 4080

uscool · Monday at 19:27

Grim5 said:
We don't know that yet, you can't make these assumptions about Nvidia, the 5070 might be slower than a 4080

Regardless It will be close enough, I haven't looked but have we ever had new gen 70 tier that never matched or been way behind previous 80 tier ?

Firegod · Monday at 19:40

Seasonic power calculator seems to think 220W TDP.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · Monday at 19:44

JediFragger said:
I obviously meant 45% over current levels.

Its an 800 series card. 45% over a 7900xtx would make it RTX4080 Super level and twice the speed of an RX7800XT in RT:

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I am doubtful if it will be such a huge leap

GhostDog1981 · Monday at 20:27

uscool said:
But current 4080 performance should be next gens 5070 performance if you look at past trends , 5070 shouldn't be $999 , more mid tier pricing

Should I keep my 7800xt or upgrade to a 8800xt sorry the FOMO is setting in lol! XTX performance with 45% better RT for £600 likely

gpuerrilla · Monday at 20:43

Firegod said:
I think people need to remind themselves (as it is easy to get caught up in hype and speculation) about what we know. It will be a mid-range GPU. So yes, those on top end 7900XT or XTX cards are probably not going to be buyin this GPU, especially for general Raster performance. That should go without saying. Personally, I'm with a 6900XT so I'd be waiting to see benchmarks before deciding if it fits what I need. What else do we know, yes AMD have said they are focusing on RT performance. So as long as they deliver on that (any improvement is welcome), then they have fulfilled their promise. Next would be the price, it has to be priced as a mid-range GPU. Get that right and we should be golden.

But I thought RT was the pinnacle and people will be climbing over themselves for 4080 levels?

GuruJockStrap · Monday at 20:45

I’m on an 8GB 3070.

To say I’m a bit moist upon this 8800XT rumour is an understatement.

I’d probably bite at £600, seeing as I paid not that far off for this 3070 three years ago.

But it’s the hope that kills you. Just watch AMD price this at £800.

gpuerrilla · Monday at 20:47

Also be wary of the reveal +30% charts!

GuruJockStrap · Monday at 21:03

Also, we should never underestimate AMD’s ability of never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

muon · Monday at 21:15

This is a 4096 CU, 220W card. Some crazy hype happening here.

uscool · Monday at 21:23

GhostDog1981 said:
Should I keep my 7800xt or upgrade to a 8800xt sorry the FOMO is setting in lol! XTX performance with 45% better RT for £600 likely

Would say yes but let's see . For me need good excuse to finally move away from the 3080

GhostDog1981 · Monday at 21:23

uscool said:
Would say yes but let's see . For me need good excuse to finally move away from the 3080

Noooooo I just finally was happy with my 7800xt lol.

monkeypants · Monday at 21:23

I paid £500 for a 7900gre yesterday, still feeling okay about it.

JediFragger · Monday at 22:20

Supports a previous rumour;

Seasonic lists unannounced AMD Radeon RX 8800 XT as 220W graphics card - VideoCardz.com

Seasonic expects Radeon RX 8800 XT to feature 220W TDP Power supply manufacturer leaving specs tips. It may not be entirely accurate, nor based on embargoed information Seasonic might possess, but just in case it is, the Radeon RX 8800 XT is claimed by the company to have a TDP of 220W. This...

videocardz.com

Also supposedly just an architectural tweak over RDNA3 rather than a full do-over, I suggest you all temper your expectations of this chip and ignore the wild rumours. GRE-level or a touch better maybe?

JediFragger · 2024-12-03T00:45:47+0000

I'm thinking GRE-level with RT boost and better upscaling for....£500? At least on release.

Poneros · 2024-12-03T05:29:10+0000

People's expectations are truly detached from reality. Not sure how anyone could look at the abomination that is RDNA 3, hear AMD say they're going to play it "safer", but then expect a 4080 @220w for £500. Then again I suppose the holidays are coming up so might as well ask Santa for the moon.

Grim5 · 2024-12-03T06:04:15+0000

JediFragger said:
Supports a previous rumour;

Seasonic lists unannounced AMD Radeon RX 8800 XT as 220W graphics card - VideoCardz.com

Seasonic expects Radeon RX 8800 XT to feature 220W TDP Power supply manufacturer leaving specs tips. It may not be entirely accurate, nor based on embargoed information Seasonic might possess, but just in case it is, the Radeon RX 8800 XT is claimed by the company to have a TDP of 220W. This...

videocardz.com

Also supposedly just an architectural tweak over RDNA3 rather than a full do-over, I suggest you all temper your expectations of this chip and ignore the wild rumours. GRE-level or a touch better maybe?

This is true shatters the latest rumours

The latest rumours claimed 25% less TDP than 7900xtx, which would be 270w, but Seasonic says it's 220w. So if the leaker couldn't even get the TDP right then what else did they get wrong?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2024-12-03T07:55:25+0000

Grim5 said:
This is true shatters the latest rumours

The latest rumours claimed 25% less TDP than 7900xtx, which would be 270w, but Seasonic says it's 220w. So if the leaker couldn't even get the TDP right then what else did they get wrong?

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ICDP · 2024-12-03T08:02:55+0000

JediFragger said:
I call horse**** on the raster perf til we see the reviews drop. 45% faster RT than crap RT is still that, crap.

They better at least nail the upscale this time, getting embarrassing.

The RT performance of the 7900 XT is decent enough to run heavy RT with upscaling at 1440p. It most certainly is not “crap” even at that current level.

A 7900 XTX is even better and if true, then a 45% uplift in that level of RT is going to be a very viable 4K mid range GPU similar to an RTX 4080 RT performance. The only potential issue will be where AMD price it.

All the people on 7900 XT or “mid range” RTX 4000 will not be remotely excited or hyped for the 8800 XT, but they not who AMD are aiming at. If you look at this from a perspective of those who held on to RDNA 2 and 3000 series Nvidia cards, they will finally have a decent upgrade path if the price is right. That’s who are more excited at this level of GPU for the right price.

Not hyped or exciting, just a potentially good GPU if the price is right.

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