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Honestly the only thing AMD has consistently delivered in over the last 10 years is a shotgun shell to their own foot
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Honestly the only thing AMD has consistently delivered in over the last 10 years is a shotgun shell to their own foot
thats Ti , I was more on about plan 70 vs plan 80 the first releases not what came later 12gb 3080 also came later also including pure raster not DLSS plenty of reviews are done without DLSS, thats mainly nvidia's own charts
where are getting this information 1080ti beating 3070 ?
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We had it from the duo if you remember where they said the 4070 was going to be better and cheaper than the 3090. It was a great chestnut.
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Guys if possible can we keep the Nvidia chat to a minimum. I know it can be relevant at times. Just don't want the thread to segway off and turn into the usual bun fight. Try and keep it about RDNA4. I'm not a mod though so feel free to ignore me. 
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@Firegod fair enough, deleted my reply to keep it on topic, but imo GPU makers are making the gen on gen gains a redundance in recent gens.
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We had it from the duo if you remember where they said the 4070 was going to be better and cheaper than the 3090. It was a great chestnut.
4070 faster than 3090 who said that ? It was pretty easy to guess it was towards the 3080
I'll now get back on topic
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I won't play NV's games, I'll take the AMD option when they hit a price I want to pay
Because the company for a good while was on the verge of bankruptcy and put all their eggs in the cpu basket while the gpu division had to scrape by.
I'd hardly call the 6000 series a disappointment, people were expecting slightly faster than 2080ti but it by far surpassed that. Top end was competing with and beating the nvidia equivalent in raster games.
The 70 used to be a great GPU, giving people the performance of the previous gen flagship, but now its morphed into a card that is targeted as an upsell to those who usually buy the 60 class because thats the only way they are getting a worthwhile upgrade gen on gen.We had it from the duo if you remember where they said the 4070 was going to be better and cheaper than the 3090. It was a great chestnut.
The 7800XT was disappointing too despite it being AMDs best value 7000 card, should have really been a 7700XT for £400 while the 7900XT should have been the 7800XT for $550-600, I said this at launch and people said AMD couldn't afford to sell a 7900XT for around $600 or a 7800XT for $400 yet that seems to be the price now, shame its to late as everyones already bought an Nvidia card at this point so its no surprise AMD lost marketshare.
Lets hope they learn and get it right with the 8800XT because they won't have many more chances if they carry on the same way as they have been.
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Yep, at the very least the GRE should have been the 6800XT replacement. They then could have priced the 7900XT at £699. Shame really as they are all very decent cards. I have bought my son a 7700XT for Christmas to replace his 6600XT and at £350 its a good price, but not at the £469 that they were originally priced at. I mean the 4070 which is the closest card NVIDIA have to this is £180 more expensive yet they trade blows and its close in RT unless its PT stuff.
I really like my GRE and at £569 it didn't seem that bad of a deal for the nitro+ but even those prices didn't last. I am guessing though this is more the shops than AMD ?
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The 7900XT regularly retails for £550-600 and that’s not exactly flying off the shelves so whatever AMD go for with the 8800XT it’ll have to be substantially better.
Guys if possible can we keep the Nvidia chat to a minimum. I know it can be relevant at times. Just don't want the thread to segway off and turn into the usual bun fight. Try and keep it about RDNA4. I'm not a mod though so feel free to ignore me.
This please
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Yeah I found the 6700XT canny and now the 6900XT, really good undervolted. I've been dabbling with frame gen recently and it's been decent. Still not sold on FSR due to graphical issues, but hopefully FSR4 will deliver (finally).
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I just installed a 7800XT in a mates machine tonight TUF model (with cpu + ram), chunky unit and impressed with the adrenaline suite.
Yes although they see themselves as a premium brand, they sit better with the reasonable price brand - as the sales reflect. They occasionally do well at the high end, but anyway.. the 8800XT needs to be appealing from the start, lets see what the reveal has to say in a few weeks.
Yes although they see themselves as a premium brand, they sit better with the reasonable price brand - as the sales reflect. They occasionally do well at the high end, but anyway.. the 8800XT needs to be appealing from the start, lets see what the reveal has to say in a few weeks.
True but that's only after being on the market for 2 years, when it first released it cost £900+.
I've almost pulled the trigger on a 7900XT on multiple occasions but it's always been either slightly too expensive or too close to the launch of newer cards, if it had launched closer to the £700 mark I'd be sitting here with one right now.
Because that's still a lot of money for a lot of people, and having worse upscaling & RT makes it difficult to stomach at such a high price point (to say nothing of how much AMD gets beat up in just general, word of mouth, marketing as a result of these misses, particularly FSR). Essentially that makes it have to go up against the 4070 Super (and I'm not even including PT in the conversation), which is still much cheaper, so how could it fly off the shelves? Worse product, worse reputation, worse marketing, worse price. It's RDNA 3 in a nutshell.
Yeah, that’s not a price thing, it’s a close to new GPUs thing. People are waiting to see what Nvidia and to a lesser extent AMD release in that exact price bracket.
I have a 7900XT and it’s a great GPU but even I would be telling people not to buy one at £550. If a 8800 XT releases in less than a month for the same or lower price and gives 30% better RT performance.
I have a 7900XT and it’s a great GPU but even I would be telling people not to buy one at £550. If a 8800 XT releases in less than a month for the same or lower price and gives 30% better RT performance.
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