Yeah can't find that. Also we get free postage at OCUK that 685 is gonna be knocking on 700 by the time you add postage
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Yeah can't find that. Also we get free postage at OCUK that 685 is gonna be knocking on 700 by the time you add postage
Interesting
Retailers now canceling cheaper Radeon RX 9070 preorders, "MSRP" stock depleted but AMD wants to fix it - VideoCardz.com
Not everyone is happy with Radeon RX 9070 launch AMD will be ‘encouraging’ retailers to keep lower price. From gamers perspective, AMD had a successful launch of the Radeon RX 9070 graphics card series, but only if we are talking about gamers who happen to live close to a MicroCenter. This...videocardz.com
MSRP cards are no doubt lower margin than added value high range ones and if as a retailer you're selling absolutely everything why bother with low margin MSRP cards, right?
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this seems to be retailers trying to blame AMD for not having any more MSRP cards and AMD blaming the retailers. I cant say 100% who is at blame but AMD cant force retailer to sell at MSRP even if they wanted to, its ultimately the retailers who decide the price they want to sell it and nearly all of them want to scalp the prices. The days where MSRP mean exactly that is gone, well for anything computer related anyway. Best thing is not to buy and they will eventually drop down.
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Right...
AMD also don't sell cards, they sell chip's, AIB's put those chips on to PCB's and turn them in to cards.
I can see why for example Sapphire might like to make more Nitro+ cards than Pulse cards, its the same reason retailers will want the same, it doesn't make any difference to AMD, they sell Sapphire 10,000 chips at a time for a set price, its up to Sapphire what they do with those chips.
Its another one of those things where its easy to blame AMD because all AMD will say is "we encourage MSRP" they are never going to say "its because retailer / AIB's don't want to make or sell MSRP cards when they know they can sell every over priced high end card they make"
AIB's / retailers also aren't pushing the blame on AMD, what they are doing is wording it in a way that makes it appear like its out of their control and because someone needs to take the blame for it it ends up being the one that can't really say anything.
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Actually i'm going to expand on this.... remember the burning 7800X3D's? for sometime no one knew what was causing that, Motherboard vendors were trying to distance themselves from it and because AMD being the only ones who didn't say anything at all, because they did want to appear to be blaming anyone, that would be bad for relations.... its was allowed to settle on it being AMD's fault, even tech tubers started talking about it being AMD's fault (because why don't they say something, what are they hiding) Ber8ouer even made a technical video explaining how it is AMD's fault.
We all know how that eventually turned out, it was the motherboard vendors doing **** AMD told them not to.
I know I don't get it,but I'm not complaining
Right on que, just as people like Der8ouer made videos about the 7800X3D problem being AMD's doing the new blame game has now started.
Whose the easy target? AMD... right so its AMD's doing, great, as easy as that, Sponsored by UR-CDkeys, kaching...
AMD sell bare chips, not cards.
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The one thing AMD did do wrong was not sell reference cards, i hope they go back to doing exactly that because clearly their partners cannot be trusted to not immediately go for the consumers jugular as soon as they have nothing holding their feet to the fire.
I want to see UDNA reference cards, AMD, they betrayed you and tech journalists are going to do the same the moment they have their Russian Key sites sign sponsor contracts.
I want to see UDNA reference cards, AMD, they betrayed you and tech journalists are going to do the same the moment they have their Russian Key sites sign sponsor contracts.
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Without knowing what AMD are charging board partners, MSRP is moot. If retailers required a kickback to meet limited numbers of "MSRP" cards, that figure is a lie.
Everyone is getting shafted, retailers might as well take some cream off the top while they can sell all inventory they can get
Everyone is getting shafted, retailers might as well take some cream off the top while they can sell all inventory they can get
I think you have AMD stock.
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Would love to see the video where he breaks down cost of production.
Could amd sell it for 450$ and still make profit on 9070xt?
Could amd sell it for 450$ and still make profit on 9070xt?
Like i said before i do believe MSRP cards will be lower margin than high end cards, they all use the same chips and those chips are bough in bulk at a fixed price, they can use that all for MSRP card or they can use none, this is not AMD choice, all they can do is "encourage".
Aslo: a Nitro+ card has higher margins than a Pulse card... of course it does.
You'd have to factor in R&D costs as well as production
That makes no sense, if i had AMD stock i wouldn't want them selling GPU's at all, they can make 5 Ryzen 9700 X at $1500 total for every $600 9070 XT, what's more those CPU's don't come with PCB's or coolers.
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I have mentioned this several time, both Nvidia and AMD need to sell reference cards at MSRP and plenty of supply because retailers and AIB partners scalp to high heaven now.
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Yeah, if AMD aren't selling reference cards I don't think they have any place setting an MSRP (same goes for Nvidia). If you're just selling the chips, don't tell board partners what they should be charging for the graphics card.
Even if you do make reference cards maybe MSRP shouldn't be a thing, but by making a reference card you can dictate a reference price that the market can use to determine if an AIB card is good value.
Right, i think they have proven they can't be trusted, AMD need to go back to selling reference cards on their home site.