I would argue that if a game requires additional VRAM, it also needs extra performance or a better scaler.
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16gb vram is fine, and a 9070 has a far better upscaler than the 7900xt...better rt also...It's not a contest...it's cheaper and better
I don't understand..you were contemplating buying the 7900xt for £630...thats just 2% faster in raster than the 9070 with worse rt and no fsr4, andf 7090 is available now for £569, so £60 less.....20th april is just over a month away and you were worried you wouldn't be able to get anything for your son.....cutting it a bit fine there don't you think.....or are you trying and get a 9070xt for £630 then? don't think you'll be seeing £569 any time soon for an xt...not unless nvidia suddenly start shipping more
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If 9070xt is getting close to £650 msrp then might as well poney up another £80-150 to get a superior 5070ti (there’s availability at around 800ish) with better path tracing and Nvidia feature set. Absolute clowns at AMD. They’re not going to get market share keeping the prices where they are. They would have played a blinder at £550 and got huge market share and goodwill.
They’re just not interested in gaining market share and just want the Radeon division to tick along in PC segment just to allow the R&D with consoles to carry on for the next latest release from Sony and Microsoft.
They’re just not interested in gaining market share and just want the Radeon division to tick along in PC segment just to allow the R&D with consoles to carry on for the next latest release from Sony and Microsoft.
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how is 5070ti superior? maybe we have different definition of superior, but I don't consider 5070ti superior in any way, maybe slightly better performance but so small its not even worth considering even at these prices.
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It’s about 5% superior in benchmarks at raster and 30-50% better at raytracing esp path.
It’s all there on the internet.
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More power efficient, slightly higher FPS, better DLSS. If I had choice of 9070xt or 5070ti I'd go Nvidia
It's not from a price/perf perspective, but if the 5070ti stock becomes abundant and it comes down to it's msrp (£729), and the 9070xt remains price gouged, the 5070ti would start to become the more attractive choice.
These prices could be volatile. Increased 5070ti stocks and reduced prices will likely have a knock on effect for the 9070xt and push it's price back down to MSRP.
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Yeh, prices being roughly equal, I'm not sure I know anyone not wearing some seriously thick Ray Charles glasses, who would go for an 9070XT over a 5070Ti. I would have happily got an XT at the MSRP as the price made it favourable and its shortcomings aren't generally things I care that much about, but this entire limited subsidy crap has done nothing to make AMD look good in my eyes. Might have also made a bit of a difference if their definition of great stock didn't just mean 'slightly better stock than nvidia, but still massively short of what the market requires'. If a Ti comes up at MSRP before the XT goes back to MSRP, then I'll likely get a Ti (if I just don't say, f!@k it entirely and wait for the next generation).
TPU says 17% better RT at 4kIt’s about 5% superior in benchmarks at raster and 30-50% better at raytracing esp path.
It’s all there on the internet.
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It’s not AMD setting the retailer prices, some retailers started right off the bat with 650+ prices here in the UK.
I think we’re all very quick to blame Nvidia and AMD for retailers taking the opportunity to turn a 5% profit margin into a 10% profit margin, knowing full well that they’ll either sell at a higher price or eventually they’ll run a ‘sale’ and they’ll sell at the original price, still netting them a solid profit.
Tbf I think everyone is on the take, these cards could be sold at £400 and still offer a reasonable profit for all involved.
You may be right, but do you think the average consumer gives a flying ***** whose fault it is? I would actually slightly disagree with you in that AMD isn't totally powerless in this as they control the GPU dies, but even if they don't want to exercise the ultimate power of making threats to the AIB partners over cutting off their supply, it's not rocket science to get together with the AIB partners and actually discuss what is a realistic price for a base spec card and settle on that as the MSRP. If it's too much then it's down to AMD to decide whether they want to entirely subsidise it, or stay in the realms of a bit player. It does them no good to fanny around with these drop-in-the-ocean limited subsidies.
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Yeah, agreed on that. The non-XT just isn't worth it over £500, even with all the stock and scalper price gouging issues that makes it hard to find the XT at MSRP.
I reckon it will follow the footsteps of the 7700XT and settle at close to £100 below the bigger brother GPU.
For those of us who didn't manage to get a 9070XT... there's this to look forward to
AMD rumored to be cooking 'Ultimate Navi 48' GPU: perf between RTX 5070 Ti and RTX 5080
AMD is reportedly preparing an 'Ultimate Navi 48' SKU: this could be the Radeon RX 9070 XTX or the RX 9070 XT Ultimate, tweaked RDNA 4.www.tweaktown.com
I wonder how AMD will bungle up the launch of such a GPU. It's funny how they never intended to try hard but then saw Nvidia fumble the ball and are now scrambling to try and make the most of the situation, if this is true.
I reckon he'll do a follow-up video covering his errors and overclock properly next time.
ultimately the profit they make depends on how much AMD and Nvidia sell the GPU on the trays for, I know Nvidia is leaving very little profit for AIB partners. Its everybody's fault, even the consumers, people buy like its their last week on earth even with extortionate prices. Just watch NVidia is going to price the 6090 at £2500 and AIB cards will start at £3000-£4000 and they will all be sold out.
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Nothing to do with GPUs, but I was fighting a small cold on 9070/XT launch day and then felt terrible over the next few days, hence I hadn't been around to see what was happening.
I come back here to find a silly amount of pages of discussion on these GPUs to catch up on, unlike the Nvidia thread where it seemed to have less chatter, outside of all the issues and troubles and us all having a laugh about them. Let's hope AMD release more stock and at MSRP for that matter, else Mr Azor will be burnt at the stakes (by overheating 5090s).
Anyhow, no joke, yesterday I was given this in a car park... what could it be I wonder?
We'll find out on the weekend, when I have time to sort stuff out
I come back here to find a silly amount of pages of discussion on these GPUs to catch up on, unlike the Nvidia thread where it seemed to have less chatter, outside of all the issues and troubles and us all having a laugh about them. Let's hope AMD release more stock and at MSRP for that matter, else Mr Azor will be burnt at the stakes (by overheating 5090s
).Anyhow, no joke, yesterday I was given this in a car park... what could it be I wonder?
We'll find out on the weekend, when I have time to sort stuff out
Congrats on your massive new USB cable.Nothing to do with GPUs, but I was fighting a small cold on 9070/XT launch day and then felt terrible over the next few days, hence I hadn't been around to see what was happening.
I come back here to find a silly amount of pages of discussion on these GPUs to catch up on, unlike the Nvidia thread where it seemed to have less chatter, outside of all the issues and troubles and us all having a laugh about them. Let's hope AMD release more stock and at MSRP for that matter, else Mr Azor will be burnt at the stakes (by overheating 5090s
Anyhow, no joke, yesterday I was given this in a car park... what could it be I wonder?
We'll find out on the weekend, when I have time to sort stuff out
If AI crashes Nvidia may go with 10k as they will need to replace the revenue somehow.