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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

TNA said:
Would sell well and review well i suppose. But won't gain them meaningful marketing share unless nvidia price their alternative at a much higher price point.

To gain meaningful marketshare and be disruptive they need to go to £399-449 imo.
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All of the aftermarket companies push the prices up anyway, so theres always a range of a few hundred between brands. If they are serious about the mid market share they need to price well to do some serious damage to nvidia. Although the 5070/60 will release later so maybe they will just lower the price to cancel out AMD. Can only be a good thing i guess.
 
Troezar said:
At 7900XT and better RT for £500 I think they'd sell like hot cakes in the current market. All depends if NV can bring out 4070Ti performance for a similar price...
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This is the only concerning part of it at this stage. AMD being AMD may not quite reach the 7900XT level which would be a shame so would wait for proper reviews on it and not just the slide deck that over promises! :p
 
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Bidley said:
www.pcgamesn.com

The AMD Radeon RX 8800 XT gaming GPU specs just leaked, and they look worrying

Latest rumor suggests top-end RDNA 4 AMD graphics card will compete with the Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 with 64 compute units and 16GB of VRAM.
www.pcgamesn.com www.pcgamesn.com

Oh dear. If this is true my 3080 12gb might have to carry on a while longer (or I remortgage).
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Firegod said:
I read the same article and found the title misleading. It starts by saying it is "worrying" but then when you read the article it goes on to say:

"That doesn’t mean the new GPU will necessarily be slower than the 6800 XT. In the tests for our Radeon RX 7800 XT review, we found the new GPU was still faster than the 6800 XT, despite having fewer compute units, thanks to the improvements made with the new RDNA 3 architecture, for example."

So if the same holds true for RDNA 4 then it is a pointless article.
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The 7800XT is about 5% faster than the 6800XT in raster and beats it in RT by about 10% - 15%. This is despite having 20% less compute units. So if the same architectural and node increase is repeated, then with slightly more compute units the 8800 XT should be about 30% to 35% faster than a 7800 XT.

That could put it at least 7900 XT and very close to the the 7900 XTX in raster. It’s RT and the price that will be interesting to see.

I see nothing to worry about for performance from this specs and roughly 7900 XT to 4080 raster is perfectly achievable.
 
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ICDP said:
The 7800XT is about 5% faster than the 6800XT in raster and beats it in RT by about 10% - 15%. This is despite having 20% less compute units. So if the same architectural increase is repeated, then with slightly more compute units the 8800 XT should be about 30% to 35% faster than a 7800 XT.

That could put it at least 7900 XT and very close to the the 7900 XTX in raster. It’s RT and the price that will be interesting to see.

I see nothing to worry about for performance from this specs and roughly 7900 XT to 4080 raster is perfectly achievable.
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Yep! Fingers crossed.
 
ICDP said:
The 7800XT is about 5% faster than the 6800XT in raster and beats it in RT by about 10% - 15%. This is despite having 20% less compute units. So if the same architectural increase is repeated, then with slightly more compute units the 8800 XT should be about 30% to 35% faster than a 7800 XT.

That could put it at least 7900 XT and very close to the the 7900 XTX in raster. It’s RT and the price that will be interesting to see.

I see nothing to worry about for performance from this specs and roughly 7900 XT to 4080 raster is perfectly achievable.
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Ah I read the article totally wrong - I thought it said a decrease in CU against the 7800xt.

I feel much less deflated now!
 
Finners said:
Does indeed look underwhelming, an EOL 7900XT/XTX might be a better value buy but UE5 worries me as stalker 2 seems to have lumen on or some other form of ray tracing on permanently that drags performance down on AMD.

If this ends up being common on all UE5 games older generation AMD cards could become obsolete quicker.

Hopefully it's just a stalker thing and not an engine thing.
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Software Lumen is pretty much widespread for UE5 titles, but that's okay for AMD because it's close to parity with Nvidia when using it. What's coming next is more widespread enabling of Hardware Lumen, and there AMD is still a gen behind Nvidia. RT on by default is becoming a lot more common for AAA titles, we just got Indiana Jones a few days ago that is RT-only, we had the Avatar/Outlaws combo not so long ago, and ofc Metro Exodus EE paving the way before then.

It remains to be seen how much of the gap RDNA 4 can close for general RT (tho ofc for PT you should expect still a gigantic gulf between AMD & NV).
 
That is all up in the air until we see the real rdna4 testing with games. Its shifting to udna so not sure if they will lose another margin while the change occurs - lets hope not!

What's interesting to see is the blaming now of the game(s) and the poor use of the features.
 
I am really hopeful that the 8800xt is everything part as good as these rumours suggest, and priced disruptively well.
But, so far all amd has said is that they aren't releasing high end cards next gen, and look at how much hype is building.
I feel like we really need to stop doing this to ourselves, at this rate by February if amd doesn't release a 4090 killer for £250 everyone is going to be disappointed :eek: (hyperbole obviously)
 
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I'm watching the 8800XT rumours quite closely to replace my 6900XT (as I need to upgrade one of the kids PCs, which is where it'll end up). The question will be to whether to go for a XTX end of line deal (if any are about), or go for a 8800XT immediately, it doesn't help knowing how AMD are prone to mess up release prices...

I guess i'll just have to wait and see how it compares to the 7900XT/X and the launch pricing versus any deals.
 
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Boomstick777 said:
5070 12GB at launch then a bit later the 5070 Ti with 16GB as a refresh followed finally by the real 5070 spec card named the 5070 Ti Super 16GB in about a year or a year and a half lol.
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I laugh but you're probably spot on with that prediction! If nvidia launch the 12GB 5070 and price it above £500, then anyone buying that needs their head examining. At £500+ and in 2025, you should be looking at a card with a minimum of 16GB VRAM. End of.

Any chance you could confirm the lottery numbers for this week whilst you're at it too?
 
GuruJockStrap said:
I laugh but you're probably spot on with that prediction! If nvidia launch the 12GB 5070 and price it above £500, then anyone buying that needs their head examining. At £500+ and in 2025, you should be looking at a card with a minimum of 16GB VRAM. End of.

Any chance you could confirm the lottery numbers for this week whilst you're at it too?
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You just reminded me, if I come up you're on my Christmas list. That said, you'll need a lottery win to afford a 50 series :cry:
 
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