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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%
  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%
  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%

  • Total voters
    528
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The thing that worries me is that I am buying a new computer when Threadripper comes out (it'll either be a Threadripper system or an Intel X299 system depending on which is better when we have full information on Threadripper) so the date of purchasing my system is already set so I need to make a choice as to what to buy in the next couple of months. If AMD don't have a 1080TI competitor I might be forced to buy another Nvidia GPU even though Vega might be a better fit for an AMD Threadripper system. I really want this system to last for 5 years (perhaps with 1 GPU upgrade in the middle) so I really want the best when I buy it.
IMO, if you want a system to last a long time and be somewhat value conscious you don't actually want to buy a very high end GPU and never upgrade. Buy a 1070 or 1080 and enjoy it (or the equivalent Vega product if they are around), sometime next year there will be Volta and perhaps even Vega20 etc. However good teh fastest Vega will be you can bet that the 1080 successor will be just as fast and much cheaper, similar the next Vega 20 GPU in the mid-range will beat the fastest Vega 10.
 
Only one answer to this, ironically provided by yourself.
What, the rest is fact. AMD have official given the power figures.
AMD have not given anyone an FE card to review, that is an indisputable fact.
Vega FE is both marketed at professionals but doesn't have certified drivers -that comes straight form AMD's official marketing.

Why the need to disregard facts.
 
However good teh fastest Vega will be you can bet that the 1080 successor will be just as fast and much cheaper.

Ooohhh, now you really are making me giggle. Much Cheaper you say.....can't see it myself. Not the way the Green Team have been hoofing up the prices lately.

I have said this a few times now about what AMD/RTG are doing....."Slowly, Slowly Catchee Monkey" ;)
 
Some more photos of the Frontier Edition retail packaging and unpacked.
Reddit mods keep removing the chap's posts it seems.

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Ooohhh, now you really are making me giggle. Much Cheaper you say.....can't see it myself. Not the way the Green Team have been hoofing up the prices lately.

I have said this a few times now about what AMD/RTG are doing....."Slowly, Slowly Catchee Monkey" ;)



The 1080 is cheaper than the FuryX and 980ti, this has always been the case. Next generation mid-range cards come out cheaper and faster than last generation high end card. That is a cold hard fact, something you seem to have a very hard time dealing with.
Are you seriously suggest AMD and Nvidia next generation mid-range cards will be more expensive than the current high end? Is the 2080 going to cost $800? On what planet?
 

Slightly higher than a 1080. I wonder if this was the FE running in gaming mode or Faux "professional" mode. Apparently the drivers can be switched.
EDIT:, just seen this is in game mode
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Still, with early drivers it liekly doesn't mean much.

I fear AMD are shooting themselves in the foot here. Since they didn't give any FE cards out to reviewers under strict controls with official statements, we are all going to get a load of benchmarks form people who bought their own card. If the drivers really do have some serious work required then there will be a mountains of terrible benchmarks released and people might write Vega off even although come release day things might be very different.
 
The 1080 is cheaper than the FuryX and 980ti, this has always been the case. Next generation mid-range cards come out cheaper and faster than last generation high end card. That is a cold hard fact, something you seem to have a very hard time dealing with.
Are you seriously suggest AMD and Nvidia next generation mid-range cards will be more expensive than the current high end? Is the 2080 going to cost $800? On what planet?

The majority of 1080 cards were over £600 on launch with the FE being £620. I don't think that's cheaper and you are saying mid range as well which i agree it is there mid range chip but the pricing was certainly not.
 
The 1080 is cheaper than the FuryX and 980ti, this has always been the case. Next generation mid-range cards come out cheaper and faster than last generation high end card. That is a cold hard fact, something you seem to have a very hard time dealing with.
Are you seriously suggest AMD and Nvidia next generation mid-range cards will be more expensive than the current high end? Is the 2080 going to cost $800? On what planet?

My mistake, I was under the impression that the 1080 was $699 and the Fury X was $649 at launch.......Oh....they were? ;)
 
The majority of 1080 cards were over £600 on launch with the FE being £620. I don't think that's cheaper and you are saying mid range as well which i agree it is there mid range chip but the pricing was certainly not.
The RRP was $600, the 980ti and FuryX had an RRP of $650. The 1080 was faster and cheaper. Of course BREXIT happened and the pound collapsed that didn't help, but the point still stands.

All i am saying is the 2080 will be cheaper than faster than the 1080ti. THe exact same will happen with Vega We know there will be a Vega GPU that is both Cheaper and faster than the FuryX. And when Vega 20 or NAvi comes there will be a GPU cheaper and faster than the fastets Vega10.


Look, Cromulent wanted advice on a GPU and was worried about Vega timing. All I have said is don't buy the most expensive GPU you can afford and don;t upgrade for 5 years, ti doesn't make sense. Buy a cheaper GPU and upgrade more often. You will get better performance for less money.
 
My mistake, I was under the impression that the 1080 was $699 and the Fury X was $649 at launch.......Oh....they were? ;)

The 1080 was $599.

I agree, the rpice difference was not as big as previous generations but you coudl for exampel by a 1070 that is faster than a FuryX for much less moeny.

All I;m saying is technology improves so buying the fastest card is not economical.
 
The chap with the Frontier Edition is running a 550W PSU. Could be power throttling as he states the frequency is all over the place.

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Running a 300+w card with a 550w GPU could definitely be a problem. But this is an issue that AMD have created for themselves. since no official reviewer with a system of appropriate specs is releasing reviews, everyone will instead be following guys like this. If the drivers are also not mature enough then we can expect to see lots of disapinting benchmarks.
 
At launch the only card you could get was an FE and it was $699 (On air) Fury X was $649 (On Water). Go figure. :D

OK fair enough I admit that I was at wrong due to the FE prices. The 1080 was still faster, and the 1070 was faster and cheaper.


Do you expect a lower end Vega to be faster and cheaper than a FuryX?
 
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