He got it from a UK online shop (not OCUK).
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Ah maybe he posted that he has only had it for a few hours rather than has it for a few hours. He has spent a hell of a lot of money on a card without knowing to much about it it seems though. Oh well if you got it go for it is what i say
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That's what i wanted to post but i didn't want to sound like a snob haha
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#yolo m8
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The guy probably just wanted to relax and chill out on reddit after the stress of stock trading only get a load of death threats from AMD fan boys
Impossible to tell at this stage.The results were 1080 level in 3Dmark.
There is the possibility his PSu was not up to the task, but the varying clock frequencies are expected. AMD claim 1382MHz typical, and if you assume that was what the benchmark ran at then 1080 performance is not wildly unexpected.
then the drivers are unknown. The drivers should be very well optimized by now since AMD were showing off functional hardware 6 months ago. But AMd make is=t very confusing what Vega FE really is. It is simultaneously a professional card but not a professional card, for gaming but not for gaming. the drivers have both a professional mode and a gaming mode, but is the gaming mode running the same as the RX vega? IF not why not
I woudln't start betting your house Vega being a 1080ti destroyer though.
A good quality 550W PSU should be enough (assuming he isn't running some mental OC on a power hungry CPU or/and a ton of hard drives or whatever connected...)
GPU-Z is wrong with the date. It is however showing the correct ID 22.19.384.2
the you would have been barely working in the graphics test, was only a 4790k, so 1 thread of it.
unless the vega was pulling 400-450w...
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Ahh ok. Anyhow as i have posted before it makes no sense that Fury X running lower clocks is faster. I find it hard to believe that Vega is a step back.
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If it's 1080 level and very power-hungry and 1080 price I don't see AMD gaining much market share unless there are a lot of people who would buy AMD for the brand alone.
It seems an odd mess to me. AMD hype Vega for a year or so, release a handful of £1000+ cards with no clear market (Frontier edition isn't clearly intended for either gaming or professional) and no clear drivers and don't give anyone cards to review and don't provide any details on other cards using the Vega GPU. Will the Vega RX gaming-orientated cards have the same performance as FE? Better? Worse? Will they cost £300? £500? £800? How much memory will they have? Will there be different versions and if so how will they differ? Do AMD have a marketing department?
Why not release a card and say "There are these models with these specs and the RRPs are this and this and here are the drivers and we sent these people samples for review and you can see the performance in these things...and so you can see you should buy our cards because they're more powerful/quieter/more efficient/cheaper than other cards"?
This is one step up from "If you stand on the right street corner wearing the right hat and give the right response when a masked person whispers the secret phrase in your ear you will be given the passphrase to a secret room where you'll get a card if you're the 17th person to ask that day but you're not allowed to talk about it".
Vega is supposed to be AMD's big deal comeback in the GPU market and a product for open sale. So why aren't they treating it as such? I think there must be some serious flaw(s) with it.
It seems an odd mess to me. AMD hype Vega for a year or so, release a handful of £1000+ cards with no clear market (Frontier edition isn't clearly intended for either gaming or professional) and no clear drivers and don't give anyone cards to review and don't provide any details on other cards using the Vega GPU. Will the Vega RX gaming-orientated cards have the same performance as FE? Better? Worse? Will they cost £300? £500? £800? How much memory will they have? Will there be different versions and if so how will they differ? Do AMD have a marketing department?
Why not release a card and say "There are these models with these specs and the RRPs are this and this and here are the drivers and we sent these people samples for review and you can see the performance in these things...and so you can see you should buy our cards because they're more powerful/quieter/more efficient/cheaper than other cards"?
This is one step up from "If you stand on the right street corner wearing the right hat and give the right response when a masked person whispers the secret phrase in your ear you will be given the passphrase to a secret room where you'll get a card if you're the 17th person to ask that day but you're not allowed to talk about it".
Vega is supposed to be AMD's big deal comeback in the GPU market and a product for open sale. So why aren't they treating it as such? I think there must be some serious flaw(s) with it.
Yup true that!
Also, I just put what we know of the system in here (no GPU):
http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/
And it comes to a load wattage of 166w with a recommended PSU of 216W so with vega as well, his PSU would be on the brink of the juice it needed, however, if it is a good PSU then it should be capable of providing some more power or....... if it is an old/crap PSU, it probably wasn't providing enough power.... But as said, if there were issues with there not being enough to power the system then he would have been getting shutdowns with error codes like kernel 41 etc.
From what I can see in his pic, it looks like a corsair PSU.
simple, if you was raja, and you knew that your top end gpu could barely match a 1 year old mid/high end from the competition, whilst consuming nearly double the power, whilst also having much higher production costs (because of hbm2)
what would you do?
you can't price it to match, because you'll have no margins and stock prices will plumment, you can't make it faster, you've already spoken ******** lines like "poor volta"
basically at this point it's ******, and they know it.
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And a 4790K!!!!!! That alone when stressed burns 100W at stock.
AMD really haven't hyped Vega at all, its been shown off a few times but as usual most of the hype has been on forums with people with totally OTT expectations. Couple this with click-bait "tech" sites throwing manufactured rumours in either direction so they can point to the times their made up bs was vaguely close to the mark and conveniently ignore the stuff that was totally wrong.
Its always the way with video card launches, usually with amd, rumours early in a thread turn into "but amd said" later in the thread like it was set in stone directly from the ceo. I just prefer to wait on review day and see what the story is, not as if i'll be upgrading anytime soon anyway
100w when all 8 threads are being used 100%.
in the graphics test only 1 thread is used, so maybe 20-30w?
so you're saying that the vega pulled 400w+?
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