Why talk about it then ?
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Why talk about it then ?
Caporegime
The why moan about it - you are acting like AMD and Nvidia release detailed gaming performance figures months before launch. Did you see GTX1080 detailed performance figures from Nvidia two months before launch?? Fury X??
Thats a good question, people are speculating that it is showing the threadripper can indeed be used as a gaming pc. Supposedly when using multiple GPUs the CPU becomes the bottleneck. We can potentially confirm that threadripper is running high clocks.
Caporegime
There is some very patient guys wanting to see what AMD are bringing to the table. They bypassed the 1080, they bypassed the 1080Ti and we were all pretty much under the assumption that Computex was the place to show off Vega but it didn't happen and hence why people are slightly negative. I would be the same if I was waiting and even though I am not, I am still disappointed to not see anything.
that's utterly stupid then, even at 3ghz (even less) threadripper would have been fine playing 60fps gaming.
a Pentium dual core could run that at 60fps, so all they've shown is it's at least as fast as a Pentium in gaming?
multiple gpus has nothing to do with the cpu being a bottleneck, what people mean is if you're running say 2x 1080s then you'll probably want a better cpu for high refresh rates, 4k/60fps is a piece of **** to run for cpus, regardless of 2 or 50 cores.
Associate
I came here for some news and all I read is that 1H has somehow morphed into 2H, aka August. As for real news ... well ... nada.
I get your point but it comes down to this I have an Rx470 and a 1060. My next gpu needs to power 4k, I just want to know how well Vega performs in a range of games. I passed the gp104 1070/1080 at release due to it's insane price (the 1080), a year on it's getting to a price that is okish but in the grand scheme of things it's only a mid range card and too weak for 4k.
It looks like I'm going to have to buy a 1080ti, So I would like to know if holding out for another couple of months is worth it
Sure but the main infrastructure is based on rendering, and gpu compute tasks as well as having a highly threaded cpu for well threaded calculations.
Putting a little ditty of 2x Vega cf running Prey is meaningless other than, hey guy's nothing to see yet but we're getting there.
that supposed 'email' got debunked, pretty much every major reviewer laughed it off and said they've never heard of such a stupid thing.
wouldn't surprise me that amd put the rumour out themselves so when the poor benchmarks came back showing ryzen underperforming they could blame it on Intel..
probably why amd fanboys blew up in a fit of rage at any bad review and sent thousands of death threats.
Soldato
Ok, now I am worried.....
I just don't get this..... A 2 year old fury x matches/beats a 1070...
Waited this long and not doing much gaming atm so I can wait a bit longer but with the above, it really isn't looking good now..... Think my days of any "serious" PC gaming are over, hopefully the scorpio will be amazing or/and there is an upcoming epic bundle deal on the ps 4 pro.
Raja comment here am sure is a miss spell and should say above.
Caporegime
Don't get me wrong its annoying,but the issue is if AMD released any figures now the following problems would happen:
1.)People would say that nobody could trust the figures until reviews are out,so another two months anyway
2.)You can't even buy the gaming cards yet,so Nvidia would still sell plenty of GTX1070/GTX1080/GTX1080TI cards
3.)If performance is there or price/performance is there,Nvidia have like two months to adjust the pricing tiers of their range - look how quickly they responded to the R9 290/290X launch by dropping the GTX780 price and giving free games away
4.)If Vega is still not quite there yet,then it will another Fury X launch with drivers,etc not being mature so even if the performance is there it means first impressions count. Even the RX480 had the same issue to a degree.
I think half the reason ATI/AMD does all this is to keep Nvidia guessing at performance or price/performance - it was the same with cards like the HD4870,for example(and also the 2900XT too).
This is why Ryzen needs to be a success,as it will mean essentially more money can be pumped back into R and D and making back up plans for issues like process node issues,etc. This is why Nvidia seems to have ridden the last few years of node issues,memory issues,etc better.
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Im so happy i went 980ti over ****** fury x but on other hand if i went with fury x now i would have 1080ti.
In my opinion fury x was worst thing they tried to sell.
Cant find a single positive thing about fury x... You guys remember that 980ti went UP in price after Fury X cane out right?? Last nail to fury x overclickers dream was when finally they cracked voltage and turned out yhem cards basically dont overclock. Thats when after months of waiting it pushed me to get 980ti and it costed me extra 60 pounds due to waiting for AMD compared to buying 980ti day it came out.
Im havibg a dejavu here. I want 1080+ performance at 1080 price. Since need just bit more juice for oculus rift. Im sure prices wobt b great due to.... Hbm2......
In my opinion fury x was worst thing they tried to sell.
Cant find a single positive thing about fury x... You guys remember that 980ti went UP in price after Fury X cane out right?? Last nail to fury x overclickers dream was when finally they cracked voltage and turned out yhem cards basically dont overclock. Thats when after months of waiting it pushed me to get 980ti and it costed me extra 60 pounds due to waiting for AMD compared to buying 980ti day it came out.
Im havibg a dejavu here. I want 1080+ performance at 1080 price. Since need just bit more juice for oculus rift. Im sure prices wobt b great due to.... Hbm2......
Did you really just say that less than 3GHz is good for 60 fps gaming?
Do you have any benchmarks of pentium's running 60FPS 4K at ultra?
We don't have any proof what fps it was running and early paper napkin calculation put it into triple digits. Either way your comment is inaccurate.
Yeah it was way too short, to really make any good guesses from it.
All valid points of which I don't disagree with, been around a long time to see the games played by both companies. If it's not ready it's not ready, but it better be worthy.
The situation is that Amd have not offered a true high end card since the Fury, there has been mass talk about vega and expectations of where it needs to perform for what seems a long time.
Polaris as good as it is, was late and was nothing special and really just a demonstration of a modified Tonga/Hawaii replaement that was meant to have been executed when 20nm was on the cards.
Don't get me wrong I like Polaris I have one, but it was meant to be Amd's attempt at getting back into notebook and mobile but we have seen a very slow adoption of this by the oem's.
I've seen good things from the cpu side, although Raven Ridge and Itx and rev2 boards are still yet to show.
I would just like to come back to Amd as I hate Nvidia's pricing structures, and just a little reassurance to myself and shareholders with a little more detail would go a long way.
They benchmarked the SP mode which isn't very taxing. They should have tried playing on a 64 player server.
Caporegime
Even then, the Vega Crossfire "comfortably beating" any single GPU isn't a resounding endorsement.
did you even look at the benchmarks?
100+ fps in pretty much every title including gta v, which is cpu intensive, 170 fps in sniper elite 4...
only lower fps one was ashes of the singularity but that barely runs faster on a 7700k.
not sure why you can't see it's easy for any cpu to run 60fps pretty much. I mean even consoles can manage 60fps on a bulldozer cpu at 2ghz....
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