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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%
  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%
  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%

  • Total voters
    528
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970 '4gb gddr5 memory'

Oh and the rops too dont forget them.
Nvidia do it too. Maybe if they said upto 4gb gddr5 memory they could have passed lol. However everyone knows that overclockers statement was a slip up. The 970 was not.

They all do it when the opportunities there, They're businesses that take turns in stretching the truth for their own agenda's,
As for the Overclockers statement it was not a slip up it was a calculated claim bthat backfired,
They wanted to give the Fiji hardware the illusion of untapped potential on release because the big Maxwell 980ti which had not long been out was a great overclocker and pulled well ahead of the Fury X flagship,
It worked okay because once they were shown to not overclock people started thinking that it needed the voltage unlocked to be an overclocking dream,
Which of course it wasn't but by the time we knew that for sure it was months and months later.
It's just the cut-throat world of business, Everyones at it.

If it works one way it works both. Which is my point.

Exactly, they are all guilty of it so there's no point trying to defend AMD with "it was a slip up" claim. It was a calculated risk as was Nvidia not mentiong the accurate memory and rops data for the 970 or the 980ti release where thay claimed A-sync comp support. They twist words and omit details.
 
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They all do it when the opportunities there, They're businesses that take turns in stretching the truth for their own agenda's,
As for the Overclockers statement it was not a slip up it was a calculated claim bthat backfired,
They wanted to give the Fiji hardware the illusion of untapped potential on release because the big Maxwell 980ti which had not long been out was a great overclocker and pulled well ahead of the Fury X flagship,
It worked okay because once they were shown to not overclock people started thinking that it needed the voltage unlocked to be an overclocking dream,
Which of course it wasn't but by the time we knew that for sure it was months and months later.
It's just the cut-throat world of business, Everyones at it.



Exactly, they are all guilty of it so there's no point trying to defend AMD with "it was a slip up" claim. It was a calculated risk as was Nvidia not mentioning the accurate memory and rops data for the 970 or the 980ti release where they claimed A-sync comp support. They twist words and omit details.

Don't get on A-Sync support as D.P is adamant they do support it just like AMD.

My point is that was just said by one person on a stage if it was intended im sure they would have been plastering it all over. It was more due to how well Fury x was cooled as AMD normally sucked on stock cooling. So they improved cooling significantly hence a overclockers dream. It was not marketed all the way like the specs of the 970. I ain't defending because there has been multiple times other than "overclockers dream" statement which AMD messed up on. And lets not all forget why i said this. it was in response to D.P knocking AMD's credibility because they said Vega has the most improvements since GCN. Then he replied with "overclockers dream" as in AMD is not good on what they say. If that's the case then we can never believe anything either vendor says.
 
This is what the cooling system looks like:

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Looks like you missed that the Frontier Edition has 480GB/s, and 16GB.
That's faster than Hynix has in the catalogue, and 8GB modules, also not in the catalogue.


But I was talking about the the version going in Apple iMacs that could well be Hynix supplied
 
Don't get on A-Sync support as D.P is adamant they do support it just like AMD.

My point is that was just said by one person on a stage if it was intended im sure they would have been plastering it all over. It was more due to how well Fury x was cooled as AMD normally sucked on stock cooling. So they improved cooling significantly hence a overclockers dream. It was not marketed all the way like the specs of the 970. I ain't defending because there has been multiple times other than "overclockers dream" statement which AMD messed up on. And lets not all forget why i said this. it was in response to D.P knocking AMD's credibility because they said Vega has the most improvements since GCN. Then he replied with "overclockers dream" as in AMD is not good on what they say. If that's the case then we can never believe anything either vendor says.
They could have issued a statement quickly to refute the comment, but they didn't. Probably for financial reasons. They saw how it was picked up by enthusiasts - wasn't that where the "Titan Killer" phrase came from, but did nothing.
 
Yes it was a slip up. It was not intended to be used in that way nor was it marketed as a overclocking card because overclocking is not guaranteed. So go ahead quote the words i know perfectly well what was said. However the 970 fiasco was long forgotten about and never held against nvidia when it comes to credibility.

"You are going to be able to overclock the thing like no tomorrow... ...this is an overclocker's dream". its kind of unambiguous as a statement hardly a slip up you don't just accidentally make a statement like that.
 
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