But the Titan XP is not meant to be used for professional software, vega FE is.
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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **
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The FE is a Prosumer card that'll also allow pro work. It doesn't have certified professional drivers. They're a perfect match up.
Want a professional Vega card? Wait for Radeon Pro WX Vega.
https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics...r-and-Liquid-Cooled-GPUs-Now-Available-Pre-Or
Heck NVIDIA directly told people that the Titan Xp is not a gaming card when they asked about it. They tried to refuse to even supply JayzTwoCents with them, once again stating they're not for gaming.
NVIDIA also list the Titan Xp for Desktop development, and for Deep Neural network training; and launched the Titan Xp at an A.I Meetup in San Francisco.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/deep-learning-ai/developer/
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Near 4 gigs
The test takes ages to run as well.
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The results look great just wonder if any of this will relate to gaming performance.
Hmm, that might explain extra price of the watercooled version. If the card's speed is heat restrained, then the watercooled version should be able to maintain peak engine clock for longer and under more heat load. We're still only talking about 218 mhz though.
If you want a pro Nvidia card for professional use then just buy a P2000 or P4000 and save a buck load and get better performance than the Vega FE.
Nvidia never said the Titan is not for gaming, don't be ridiculous and make up such rubbish, it just makes you look like a fanboy. The original Titan was marked as both a gaming card and cheap solution for HPC because it had the full fp64 performance. It has never been marked as a soltuion for professional software. Deep learning has absolutely no relevance to professional software. Nvidia sold bucket loads of the Original Titans with fp64 support, this undoubtedly cost them sales of their datacenter cards
After Kepler Nvidia released maxwell which didn't have high performance fp64 support so the Titan didn't have such market value and nvidia never sold it as a cheap HPC solution. By this point Nvidia has just used the Titan brand to signify a luxury gaming card. With Pascal Nvidia has physically separated GPU designs so Titan is absolutely 100% purely a gaming card. You want a card for HPC you get the P100. You want a card for professional software you buy a quadro.
You can still game on a Quadro card, you just don;t get the absolute latest game specific optimization but performance is still good. A Quadro P4000 is faster than the Vega FE, has fulyl certified drivers and the profesional support and will game perfectly well for $800. That is what Vega Fe should be e compared to.
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It's a far bigger jump than the 480/580 get between normal and boost though. I hope when aftermarket cards come with monster coolers it shows potential for extra overhead.
I wonder how high the sustained clocks will be on the gaming cards with aftermarket coolers? I hope 1500+ MHz.
Bit naughty, teasing with gaming demos and then not releasing any benchmarks. It's not as though they don't have any!
This explains the power draw differences and backups what i was saying recently about not taking the 1600MHz speed for granted. The air cooled card wont be running at 1600Mhz for long, it might boost that high occasionally. 1382MHz typical clock speed will need to be seen in the real world, does that start dipping down to 1200mhz during a heavy gaming session, or is it realistic even in demanding scenes?. 1200MHz might see power draw down to 250-75w which seems like a more sensible limit.
Another 5 weeks or so to find out.
EDIT: AMD have also been very sly with their marketing slides. They have been listing peak FP32/16 performance which might not be that sustainable at all, going by their listed clock speeds the Vega FE air cooled would average 11.1TFLOP FP32, while the 1080ti at base clocks averages 11.1 but since they nearly always boost higher giving typically around 13TFLOP. Now the theoretical FP performance is not directly related to gaming, Nvidia cards have always performed better at a lower FP32 performance than AMD cards. IF AMD have done a lot of improvements we may see the tables turned.
Can't wait to see the reviews.
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yeah also
https://images.discordapp.net/attac...8049550073857/image.png?width=1230&height=229
So yeah it beats an xp but loses to a $900 professional card if the Xp beats it in games then there's an obvious trade-off tit for tat. If it beats the xp in games though
yeah also
https://images.discordapp.net/attac...8049550073857/image.png?width=1230&height=229
So yeah it beats an xp but loses to a $900 professional card if the Xp beats it in games then there's an obvious trade-off tit for tat. If it beats the xp in games though
Great table. The listed prices are full retail. Reputable retailers are selling the P2000 for a little over $400, the P4000 for close to $800. Furthermore, the Vega FE air cooled has a $1200 list price, no the $1000 in the table. So in the next months you could pick up a $400 P2000 and get the same performance in Professional software as a $1200 Vega FE (later on the Vega will liekly reduce in price). What is more the Quadros come with certified drivers and professional support. Sure the Vega FE will destroy the P2000 in gaming but then if gaming is you main concern thenyou want to be comparing performance to a 1080 ti.
It just doesn't make any sense this card at this price without certified drivers.
The FE is a Prosumer card that'll also allow pro work. It doesn't have certified professional drivers. They're a perfect match up.
Want a professional Vega card? Wait for Radeon Pro WX Vega.
https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics...r-and-Liquid-Cooled-GPUs-Now-Available-Pre-Or
Heck NVIDIA directly told people that the Titan Xp is not a gaming card when they asked about it. They tried to refuse to even supply JayzTwoCents with them, once again stating they're not for gaming.
NVIDIA also list the Titan Xp for Desktop development, and for Deep Neural network training; and launched the Titan Xp at an A.I Meetup in San Francisco.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/deep-learning-ai/developer/
I think I will carry on using my Titan Xp cards for gaming, they totally crap but they are better than anything else.
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For gaming off course but these cards are supposed to be aimed at middle ground. Gaming plus light work then it's looking like Vega is better if the gaming performance matches up. Titan is aimed at a similar market so get 4 ordered and show us what's what
By air cooled you mean the FE with that blower cooler?
That one is possibly not gonna run at 1600, just with cranked up fan.
The AIB RX Vega cards on the other hand can do it easily imho.
Calling me a fanboy now really? I don't even own AMD hardware at the moment, and in the last two years have own GTX 980, Titan X, and two 980Tis. There's only one person here coming off as a Fanboy D.P
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/28042612/
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/28130438/
NVIDIA Clearly told this reviewer that they wouldn't supply him the cards because they're not for gaming; and list it for their neural network cards, and deep learning.
https://youtu.be/EYlMrxIgoME?t=5m44s
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