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It's a step up in expectations and (in theory) money to spend on players, but the reality is Liverpool are struggling financially since King Kenny flushed millions down the toilet on an average and overpaid squad and Rodgers has clearly struggled to replicate the form and play Swansea had with it.

It's still the same type of silly move where history has dictated a reputation and ambition regardless of the squad at his disposal.
 
It's a step up in every aspect of management and a far bigger challenge.

I don't think Liverpool are struggling, ask a Liverpool fan for more insight though, they spent a lot of money on average players yes but Rodgers is seeking to turn that around and build a new squad that can play a different type of football.

Also; Rodgers walked in to a Swansea squad that was already used to playing that style of football, he's gone to Liverpool and has had to make big changes, so naturally needs time to develop the squad and make changes, so of course he's going to struggle a bit at the start, square pegs round holes and all that.
 
Tummy said:
It's a step up in every aspect of management and a far bigger challenge.

I don't think Liverpool are struggling, ask a Liverpool fan for more insight though, they spent a lot of money on average players yes but Rodgers is seeking to turn that around and build a new squad that can play a different type of football.

Also; Rodgers walked in to a Swansea squad that was already used to playing that style of football, he's gone to Liverpool and has had to make big changes, so naturally needs time to develop the squad and make changes, so of course he's going to struggle a bit at the start, square pegs round holes and all that.
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I think we are, the problems that were inherent in the 1st game of the season against West Brom are still apparent with over half the season gone, then there's Rodgers man management, I just don't think its very good (it could be because he is a young manager against big ego's mind you) then there is the system he wants us to play, when you have a footballer of Steven Gerrard's ability struggling in a 4-3-3 it can't be the formation, it must be something else, ergo the manager.

I'm not a member of the Rodgers fan club like a lot of other Liverpool fans, I think it’s a case of too early for him personally. Hope I'm wrong I just don't see any signs of improvement over last season.

Stat of the day, Liverpool haven't beaten a team in the top half of the premiership this season.
 
While I like Gerrard, he's not the player he once was and a lot of people need to realise that he's not or shouldn't be in the first team plans anymore, his range of passing is excellent and he still has a role to play, but I wouldn't have thought it was in the first choice eleven.

Old dog, new tricks and all that.

I like Rodgers, I think he'll do well at Liverpool given the right backing and enough time.
 
It's a step up in challenge but not in sensible career moves.

I don't see how going to a team that has just had years of mad, directionless investment is a good idea. It'll take a good 4-5 years for him to get everyone out that can't do the right job and get the right players in without making the same mistakes of previous managers (paying too much). In which time he will be sitting there with the expectation of qualifying for Europe every season.

To me its just as silly as Lambert taking charge of a team that is supposed to be an average prem team that every man and his dog can see is heading for relegation.
 
Rodgers has had half a season to play with, pretty harsh to judge him already. He's inherited a lot of **** and is probably getting the best out of them (Downing..).

I don't mind him as a Manager, seems like a nice guy too.
 
Newbie did you think Kenny shouldve beem sacked? Because he sure as **** didnt solve any problems after a full season (ignoring first half season as did well at start and then crap at end)
 
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While I like Gerrard, he's not the player he once was and a lot of people need to realise that he's not or shouldn't be in the first team plans anymore, his range of passing is excellent and he still has a role to play, but I wouldn't have thought it was in the first choice eleven.

Old dog, new tricks and all that.

I like Rodgers, I think he'll do well at Liverpool given the right backing and enough time.
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I think he shouldn't be a starter too as he isnt the player he was, but when he looks lost in this system, something is up.

Purdy said:
Didnt you dislike Rafa too?
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Hell no, fully paid up Rafalite :)
Purdy said:
Who do you want, Shankly?
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Rafa
 
pingwing said:
It's a step up in challenge but not in sensible career moves.

I don't see how going to a team that has just had years of mad, directionless investment is a good idea. It'll take a good 4-5 years for him to get everyone out that can't do the right job and get the right players in without making the same mistakes of previous managers (paying too much). In which time he will be sitting there with the expectation of qualifying for Europe every season.

To me its just as silly as Lambert taking charge of a team that is supposed to be an average prem team that every man and his dog can see is heading for relegation.
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It's Liverpool though. It's a good idea because as a manager the bigger the club, the bigger the challenge (more often that not) and the bigger the reward.

Liverpool have already (imho) made progress this season and that isn't this '4-5' years, he needs time yes but he's already making changes and taking the club in a new direction.

It's nothing like Lambert taking over, because Villa just aren't near Liverpool in terms of history or reputation or expectation. I quite like Lambert, but Villa are in a dire situation. Liverpool are not.
 
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I think he shouldn't be a starter too as he isnt the player he was, but when he looks lost in this system, something is up.
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Old dog, new tricks. Basically.

Some players just can not adapt to new systems as well as others, and certainly older players might struggle more.

Gerrard still has something to offer, but not as a first choice player.
 
Ah my bad, its Alpheraph or w, e who didnt like rafa.

Rodgers is fine, would've preferred Rafa but wouldnt swap now. (Unless Brod his assistant for 10 years and then takes over :p)
 
Tummy said:
Old dog, new tricks. Basically.

Some players just can not adapt to new systems as well as others, and certainly older players might struggle more.

Gerrard still has something to offer, but not as a first choice player.
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Ok, ignore Gerrard not understanding his role, none of the midfield understand their role! Even his player Allen looks like he doesn't have a clue.
 
Tummy said:
It's Liverpool though. It's a good idea because as a manager the bigger the club, the bigger the challenge (more often that not) and the bigger the reward.

Liverpool have already (imho) made progress this season and that isn't this '4-5' years, he needs time yes but he's already making changes and taking the club in a new direction.

It's nothing like Lambert taking over, because Villa just aren't near Liverpool in terms of history or reputation or expectation. I quite like Lambert, but Villa are in a dire situation. Liverpool are not.
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But the price of failure is so much higher that (imo on this one) it isn't worth the risk at Rodgers point in his career. He's done the same as Lambert by almost hitting success with a small club and jumped for one that in theory should be going further.

It'll all be going wrong if Liverpool aren't in Europe next year for the short term of Rodgers career, though technically it's what Liverpool needs to progress long term (a season to concentrate on domestic form and to build a proper squad that can compete effectively week in week out). So I don't really see why Rodgers made the move.
 
Rodgers will do alright at Liverpool given time. I don't like him as a person though, his constant pandering to the Scouse "biggest club in the world" mentality drives me mad (though it seems to work a treat with some Liverpool fans, not the ones on here I might add). I don't think the "we're not 24 points behind in terms of quality" speech did him any favours either with their more realistic supporters.
 
What? How is it remotely like Villa? They are bloody awful and going to get relegated, Rodgers is doing no worse with an ever deflated team and fan base by the sounds of anfield these days

We dont get europe next year its not a failure, its a long term process and everyone needs to realize that particularly henry and co. Rodger will make mistakes and hes young but you take that risk if you want something long term
 
Purdy said:
What? How is it remotely like Villa? They are bloody awful and going to get relegated, Rodgers is doing no worse with an ever deflated team and fan base by the sounds of anfield these days

We dont get europe next year its not a failure, its a long term process and everyone needs to realize that particularly henry and co. Rodger will make mistakes and hes young but you take that risk if you want something long term
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I just think its to early for him, for me it needed an older, wiser head to get us to 4th/5th, challenging for those CL positions.

A club of Villa's stature would be ideal for any managers progression (just not one where the owner seems to have given up) before moving to a big club like Liverpool.

Swansea-Villa-Liverpool is a much more ideal learning curve (for me), rather than Swansea - Liverpool - ?.
 
Speaking of managers, looks like Pep will be managing Bayern from next year.

‏@ESPNUK
The race is over - Pep Guardiola has agreed to become the next Bayern Munich manager. Starts in the summer, contract until 2016
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EDIT: meh, posted in another thread :mad:
 
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