The BBC..... Really

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Anyone who thinks the BBC is unbiased is delusional. They have been shown quite a few times to blatantly omit things from their reports and outright lie on certain occasions. They are part of Britains propanganda machine. It's just less obvious than in other countries and since we are living in this country we notice it less.
 
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Isn't Nigel Farage the most frequently invited Question Time guest this decade? Does that mean they are right-wing biased?

No they keep bringing him on because they stupidly think that he'll dig his own hole in the same way Nick Griffin did. But it backfired spectacularly when it turned out he wasn't a knuckle dragging idiot despite what the loony liberals think.
 
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Fairly well centered but slightly right leaning to try and please the mouth-foaming biggots. They keep getting in rouble fir trying to present "balanced" arguments instead of stick to the texts, like with Brexit they were quite lop-sided in giving positive opinions about leaving the EU . They really need to stick to hard facts and experts rather than pandering to the alt-right

I think you're watching the BBC from some sort of alternative reality machine. I don't recognise a single thing about the BBC you just said and generally are the opposite. But then again you aren't in the UK, so what do you know...
 
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Anyone who thinks the BBC is unbiased is delusional. They have been shown quite a few times to blatantly omit things from their reports and outright lie on certain occasions. They are part of Britains propanganda machine. It's just less obvious than in other countries and since we are living in this country we notice it less.

Amen.

And is so blatant obvious that cannot get how people do not see it.

Good example today. BBC Radio 4, 5pm news. (listening while driving to catch up with the day).

First half hour was about a woman never heard of 15 years here.
And a tiny bit on news, barely lasting few seconds, reporting that the service sector grew in December.

Neither they reported that the Bank of England has admitted today its dire warnings of a downturn in the wake of the Brexit vote were a "Michael Fish" moment!!
(their words)

While added that new figures suggested Britain was the fastest growing of all advanced economies last year after the services sector defied gloomy forecasts to hit a 17-month high.

If the service sector had shrank, they were going to run it over the remaining of the year, as the top story, because it will bring death to everyone in this land......


Nor they reported about the appointment of the new ambassador to the EU, which according to everyone is a fantastic and very experienced one.
However during the whole week were running for half hour, every day that we are DOOMED because the previous one quit, and there is none to replace him. Ever......

And I do not continue with foreign news cover in general in Syria, Libya, Ukraine, Russia.
Hell on the Today program a month ago when Aleppo was freed, they cut off the live UN spokesman when she said that the rebels have created mass graves and executed people in their hundreds.
The ones we support with our money.......
 

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And therein lies the problem. He's able to play kingmaker thus we have politicians prepared to cosy up to his machine. But my point is we need a strong public sector broadcaster because otherwise all we will be left with is exactly what you said - half truths and lies from his rags and Sky News. Now considering he and his allies try to dress up downsizing the BBC as providing more choice you can start to see the hypocrisy of the man.

Let's not sleepwalk into something else that would be bad for the country.

Who's likely to stop him, his friends in government? I'm sure he wants payback for all the half-truths and lies his rags spout whether it's at election time or throughout the Brexit campaign.
 
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Question is.... the BBC... Is it Left or right or just inbetween.
In between.

There's a simple way to prove it, left wingers say "Right wing sources like FOX and the BBC are biased!", right wingers say "Left wing sources like RT and the BBC are biased!". When both sides claim you're biased against them that means your neutral/balanced.

Here's a chart that explains it quite well:
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Just because there's nothing positive to report on Trump doesn't mean they're going out their way to make him look bad. As stated, he's doing that himself. He (and his aides) are not just lashing out to the BBC but to US media, social networks, celebrities and the general public too! It's what they do.
I've certainly not seen any "Fake News" from any reputable news outlet. I would expect it from the like of anything News Corp and the like, and satirical news articles of course.
 
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The problem here is that Trumpers don't seem to be able to distinguish between propaganda (or Fake News if we really must) and the fact that most news sources create articles that use facts and then are given a human spin. Literally the only way news outlets could do anything that isn't in some way biased is for all news to look like this:

News Article 1.1.b

This article describes an event that occurred on February the 17th, 2017 in the United Kingdom.
  • News article 1.1.b was written by a member of the Overclockers UK Forums.
  • The article is a bullet pointed list of facts about an event.
  • There will no follow up in the form of article 1.1.c.
Nearly all "news" could be "reported" like that, but it wouldn't sell a paper and it wouldn't warrant airtime, so it's never going to happen, so there will ALWAYS be bias in all news reporting that sits somewhere on whatever political spectrum you care to use as your model.

The real art is to read the article and make a grown-up, informed decision of your own whether you agree with the reporters view of the events. Much like having any form of grown-up interaction with another human being. The problem comes in when a Trumper assumes everything they are told is true or not, in some way, biased. At that point somebody with a good Poker face can literally lie if they wish and a Trumper will take it as fact. The rest of the normal human population will, of course, fact check, see the outright lie and just dismiss (or actively oppose if they are so inclined) the reporters article.

This is an indication of the fact that the people in question do not have either the ability or the inclination toward independent and rational thought, which is a real shame as they currently appear to have enough majority that the current calamities we see unfolding have been allowed to take place...
 
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The "human spin" is largely the problem, especially in the US when you have most of the media owned by a few corporations.

In the old days 'news' would just be the known facts and that's it, these days with 24 hour news which borders on entertainment you get bombarded by opinions from so called 'experts' and politicians that a lot of the time are coming from the same angle as the stations bias, it's a sort of brainwashing really because people aren't just being told the news but they're being told what to think about it.
 
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