The cinema...WTF !!!

daz said:
35mm film is something like 10 mega pixels+. In any case, a blu-ray is a pale imitation of the cinema.

And this is coming from someone that is an avid lover of home cinema, with a projector, surround sound etc. :)
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Proper film can't even really be measured in megapixels, as the chemical process is too "fluid", too analogue. It doesn't really operate in terms of pixels.
 
Our local cinema has 2 offer days,

Wednesday is the usual OJ offer of 2 4 1, works out about 6-7 quid for 2D, and 9 quid for 3D.

Tuesday they do half price tickets so ideal for when I just want a couple hour break as I can go on my own.
 
vonhelmet said:
Proper film can't even really be measured in megapixels, as the chemical process is too "fluid", too analogue. It doesn't really operate in terms of pixels.
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You can measure the size of the silver iodide crystals, which are the analogue analogue to digital pixels. In any case, there is significantly more image "information" if you'd prefer me to put it that way in a 35mm film than there is on a blu-ray.
 
daz said:
You can measure the size of the silver iodide crystals, which are the analogue analogue to digital pixels. In any case, there is significantly more image "information" if you'd prefer me to put it that way in a 35mm film than there is on a blu-ray.
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Whilst this is absolutely true, there seems to be a trend of bringing in digital projectors and trying to claim that it's better because it's digital (i.e. the 'new' IMAX screens that Odeon are installing).

They made a big song and dance about 'IMAX', including having a trailer before the film started telling us how awesome it was and then we were 'treated' to an image with the same vertical resolution as a BluRay disk on a massive screen!
 
Phil99 said:
Whilst this is absolutely true, there seems to be a trend of bringing in digital projectors and trying to claim that it's better because it's digital (i.e. the 'new' IMAX screens that Odeon are installing).

They made a big song and dance about 'IMAX', including having a trailer before the film started telling us how awesome it was and then we were 'treated' to an image with the same vertical resolution as a BluRay disk on a massive screen!
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I read CGI is rendered at "double resolution". Regardless of 35mm film capabilities there cannot be any more detail than that of the digital master say roughly 4096 by 2xxx pixels .
 
I think any film transfer of a movie produced digitally (e.g. fully rendered) just interpolates upwards - a little like upscaling. There's no added detail, but the image is smoother than just "blowing up the pixels" than it otherwise might be.

That said, I don't think James Cameron allowed anything other than digital for Avatar.

For those disenfranchised with the cinema don't lose hope ... find your local independent or similar. A few friends went to this place http://www.everymancinema.com/cinemas/filmlisting.asp?cn=1&ci=4&ln=1&pi=1928 recently and loved it.
 
Out of curiosity, those that feel they've been ripped off did you ask if there were any deals or offers you could avail of? In one of the cinemas I know there's a deal to get a popcorn, drink and ticket for less than the cost of standard admission but it isn't advertised for obvious reasons.

There's no harm in asking and it might just pay off.
 
just saw the thread and gotta say i don't mind paying for the tickets since me and misses normally go on a orange wednesday :D

the only thing im getting tired off is that you have to buy the 3d glasses for every 3d movie you go to and i got like 20pairs of glasses lying around now :(
 
arknor said:
are you that guy who made the thread about people leaving rubbish behind in cinemas? because your job is to clean up lol...

i wouldnt do it even if the tickets were 2.50 for employees
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Mr-White said:
Cheap cinema tickets no way makes up for the minimum wage job

MW
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bam0 said:
That's really not great, when I worked at a cinema back in '96 we got 4 comp tickets per week. Not to mention free showings when the projectionists put films on to test the prints.
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What? No, not me ive never worked in a cinema, its just how much it costs to go to see a film round here.
 
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35mm Film is more down to what resolution it's scanned at, which is typically 2K. 4K is sometimes used also, but the reason it's not is because it pushes up storage, render and machine requirements when 2K is suitable and basically standard.

The issue with IMAX is that it really only looks good and its really only worth seeing an IMAX film if it's been shot for IMAX. For example, the scenes in the Dark Knight. Otherwise, with most IMAX films you are looking at a 2K image that has been upscaled to an IMAX resolution. Reason being is that the film has been scanned at 2K, it would require the film to be rescanned at an even higher resolution, and re-conformed again and that just doesn't happen in the industry. So that's why you can see pixels.

It's a bit like how you can buy 7.1 or 16.1 channel home cinema amplifiers. You aren't really getting true 7.1 or 16.1 sound because the mix for the HD master will be 5.1. It's very rare that a studio is going to pay the extra cost to do a higher channel version extra, when a 5.1 is more than what most people will already listen to it on.
 
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