The clean green energy thread - Lets talk about alternatives to nuclear power and how we can save th
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Man of Honour
Indeed, it looks like a futurist, characterless dump. Suited to the desert.
it's a good 50-80 years away?
Originally posted by Khaaan:
I hear what your saying about not everywhere having the same sun power, but if that city is a complete success then the rest of the world could design their cities based on Masdar and instead of mostly relying on sun just use another source of energy like wind/tidal etc.
I think its just important that a city will be built completely green, and that someone takes the first step to do this, and then perhaps other cities will follow in a green path...before you know it we could have 5 green cities world wide, and 50 years later we could have 20 green cities and so on, each city using different types of green power of course based on their location and options available to them.
I hear what your saying about not everywhere having the same sun power, but if that city is a complete success then the rest of the world could design their cities based on Masdar and instead of mostly relying on sun just use another source of energy like wind/tidal etc.
I think its just important that a city will be built completely green, and that someone takes the first step to do this, and then perhaps other cities will follow in a green path...before you know it we could have 5 green cities world wide, and 50 years later we could have 20 green cities and so on, each city using different types of green power of course based on their location and options available to them.
Man of Honour
It has plenty of character and if you've seen the vision imagery of the city you can see heritage areas that kind of stick to the olden ways of design at least.
Anyway, it is the future and the direction things need to head if humans want to carry on living on this planet. We won't be alive to reap the benefits of it anyway so why does it bother you that much how it looks. Future generations won't care for a nice cottage house with trees and grass and ****
And we are pumping pollutants from fissile fuels and all other manufacturing. It's what happens. we invented, we refine, we recycle and we get cleaner.
Soldato
Because few people are working on it. Time and money is being wasted IMO on other things such as windmills. We're having a huge offshore windfarm which is costing millions being built right off the coast by me. What a total waste of money IMO. Millions it is costing that could have gone into the development of the most incredible energy generation yet. IMO (once again
)How are you not certain it could be less?
Yep, looking at 2050 for earliest comercial reactor, depending have DEMo reactor goes.
construction timelines.
None.
Man of Honour
It may be less. So no big deal, go fission until then.
Where's their actual price tarifs, I hate power companies they always hide it away.
Question - The materials, labour and infrastructure being used to build the city, where is it sourced from?
Not knocking the end concept as it's ideal, but cities don't make themselves unfortunately. Not followed it so curious.
not energy or waste efficient. The design is to minimise power consumption, water and the like as well as producing energy and water cleanly.
Originally posted by Prime:
Good point but the city is still worth making imo for many reasons such as the long term benefits and also persuading the rest of the world and other corporations and governments to do the same.
Good point but the city is still worth making imo for many reasons such as the long term benefits and also persuading the rest of the world and other corporations and governments to do the same.
Every little last thing is logged and offset. Everything is sticktly controlled and recycled. They have inspectors going around to check what builders are doing with every little of scrap or empty mastik tube. It even takes it to account human food and travel.
One of the first things they did was build the solar array and connect to national grid to off set power usage.
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Because few people are working on it. Time and money is being wasted IMO on other things such as windmills. We're having a huge offshore windfarm which is costing millions being built right off the coast by me. What a total waste of money IMO. Millions it is costing that could have gone into the development of the most incredible energy generation yet. IMO (once again
billions are being spent on it it takes years to build the palces.
Associate
Just looked at the wiki article for CSP (concentrated solar power), it does indeed look far more promising than photovoltaics, however there is more to feasibility than technology (and I am dubious of the efficiency of a long distance power grid) - the prospect of buying electricity form African states is even worse for energy security than oil. We need more home grown energy production - nuclear all the way, at least the countries selling uranium are mostly friendly.
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How do you store the energy for night time use?