agree with jabbs here
its only going to look even better with dx11 and a patch fix for bugs
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agree with jabbs here
its only going to look even better with dx11 and a patch fix for bugs
Once more; this is Crysis 2 boys.
I do, however believe, I may have to eat my words; saying this is unsalvageable from being anything other than a painfully obvious console port.
Seems the modding community already have a high res pack on the way, as posted by Muzy.
I do, however believe, I may have to eat my words; saying this is unsalvageable from being anything other than a painfully obvious console port.
Seems the modding community already have a high res pack on the way, as posted by Muzy.
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I think if it had been that easy they would have. At the end of the day developers are still businesses and need to work as such. Regardless of how 'angry' it makes people they will follow two main principles:
Maximise revenue (hence why crysis is on ps3 and xbox360)
Minimise cost (reduce production time etc)
[Prime example: COD - been using the same engine for years as it enables them to churn one out every year even though that game is definitely due a new engine!]
That said I stand by my earlier comment that I still feel this is one of the best looking and immersive single player games I've played in a long time. Granted some of the AI bugs are a bit annoying but those will be fixed and in all honesty I can't remember the last game I bought which was bug free from release...
and be out of business in 6 months time when nobody buys it on release because the current hardware isn't good enough and everyone else pirates it, I feel sorry for crytek the way some of you gamers treat them like they owe you something just because you spend a lot on hardware.
LOL. Fair enough!!
I encountered an aimbot last night, game was over in about 2 minutes with this guy on, i think it was 37 for 0. i was pretty p****d though, so i was playing crap anyway
In one game i was 2 for 18, and i literally couldn't do anything
is this directx 11 patch just going to focus on the visuals, or will it adress some of the bugs as well, do we know?
The storyline is utterly ridiculous... I'm not sure even Crytek knew what was meant to be going on, it's just a series of seemingly random events strung together with the barest whiff of a plotline.
Anywho, after playing all weekend I'd have to give the game the following:
Graphics - 8.5/10
For the style of game they've made, it looks good, the particle effects and post processing stuff is outstanding. However there are some really ugly textures around, some horrible low polly models, and the entire visual effect of the game feels 'chunky' imho. Still for a DX9 game it does have its moments (especially in the later half of the game).
Sound - 9/10
Excellent sound throughout, lovely musical score, some great explosion and gun effects, etc. Overall darn good.
Gameplay - 6/10
Nothing really new, it's a typical fixed path, point to point FPS. It's all been done before, and Crysis2 doesn't exceed or even match some other games of this type, it's OK, but nothing special. AI is buggy. Enemies spawn where you are stood. Enemies have eagle vision and can see through solid objects. The suit controls feel very dumbed down (they say streamlined, I don't buy it), flicking between powers like in the first game just doesn't feel as natural.
Plotline/Story - 5/10
For me the story is the weakest part of the game. It's also the bit I personally play games for. So for it to be lacking really effects how much I like the game. Crysis2 seems to just throw away everything to do with the first two games. The plotline of Crysis 2 is all over the place, there's gaping plotholes left, right, and centre. Half the stuff that happens makes no sense (flooding the city to kill water based aliens... wtf). Plus the first few hours drag. Add on the fact that they've for some reason made you a silent protagonist in this game, when one of the best things about Crysis, and especially Warhead ("I'm British you muppet...") was the character interaction. Overall, it's just very very average.
Multiplayer - 1/10
Taking that it's just broken. I've yet to get the game to save my CD key for MP gameing. The times i've managed to get to the MP server browser I have an 80%+ chance that the server will inform me that "Your CD Key is in use!", the rare chances that I get onto a server i'm usually kicked after a couple of minutes play time. Quite how they could ship the game with the MP in this state is anyones guess. Taking they've had a few weeks of solid MP testing with the Demo, surely these issues should have been picked up! As such it gets a 'TERRIBLE' rating.
OVERALL - 6.5/10
Crysis 2 is average at best. It's redeeming factors are, it's pretty, and has good audio. It's gameplay is OK. However it is let down by the fact that it's storyline is at best forgettably meh and at worst plain dumb, the MP is broken, and it's just a pale shadow of it's predecessors.
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I just want to start off by saying I havent bought this yet...but I will.
I will buy it once it is fixed. Sure it is a good looking game and the nanosuit, despite being simplified no doubt for consoles
, sets it apart from other on rails fps of today. From what I've seen graphically its about as good as the first...but that wasnt what we were expecting. We were expecting more boundary pushing graphics and that is what we did not get.
This leads me to the first thing that I am waiting to get fixed: graphics settings. Sure I am not above altering .ini files ir downloading 3rd party software to do so, but its the principal of the thing. Options like motion blur, bloom, AA etc should have been in the game from the start. Get it sorted!
The second thing I am waiting to be fixed before I buy is the ai I've seen in videos. That smacks to me of poor testing and is really not something you expect from such a high profile release. Get it sorted!
Once those problems are patched I'll definitely buy the game and enjoy it without any of these silly problems everyone keeps *****ing on about.
I will buy it once it is fixed. Sure it is a good looking game and the nanosuit, despite being simplified no doubt for consoles
, sets it apart from other on rails fps of today. From what I've seen graphically its about as good as the first...but that wasnt what we were expecting. We were expecting more boundary pushing graphics and that is what we did not get.This leads me to the first thing that I am waiting to get fixed: graphics settings. Sure I am not above altering .ini files ir downloading 3rd party software to do so, but its the principal of the thing. Options like motion blur, bloom, AA etc should have been in the game from the start. Get it sorted!
The second thing I am waiting to be fixed before I buy is the ai I've seen in videos. That smacks to me of poor testing and is really not something you expect from such a high profile release. Get it sorted!
Once those problems are patched I'll definitely buy the game and enjoy it without any of these silly problems everyone keeps *****ing on about.
Have you tried the trick of going into multiplayer, entering your cd key, clicking back to singleplayer, then clicking back to multiplayer and entering your cd key a second time. It fixed both the issue of asking for it every time I log in and also got rid of the 'cd key in use' error. Or it did for me anyway.
I would say I dissagreed with your opinion on the negatives of the game but then it is your opinion
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Hex, i would agree with a fair part of that review, though i haven't completed it yet, but with a few comments.
Gameply- i'd probaly go for 8 instead of 6, as i am enjoying it, and actually prefer the suit controls like this. tbh, streamlined has become a dirty word, but it's not always bad. i would say that it has worked here. I am starting to see some AI problems though, hope they can fix that.
-you say it's a typical fixed path, point to point FPS. When you think about it, isn't every FPS like that really, with the odd exception. Yes, it's slightly more linear than 1, but it's not like you could invent your own story, or make any proper decisions in the first.
I would say that in terms of Linearity, it just seems like Crysis 2 has less options. In crysis, you might have a choice of how to get somewhere, but you still have to get there, Crysis 2 has pretty much been the same so far in my experience, it just seems like it's limiting your options, but the limits have always been there. (thats the way i see it anyway)
Though that tactical view thing is really starting to annoy me, can't it let me find my own way instead of highlighting everything fo me!!
-Multiplayer. Have you done the fix for the serial key problem? log in to MP, then go to single player, then log back in to MP aand it will save the key so that you do not have to enter it again
. You probably still won't get a game though
desperately need fixing.
- plotline. Yes, it's bad. I have no idea what is going on or who these people are Doesn't bother me that much though, as it was never going to win any awards, and i can't remember a FPS with a story i've actually liked. i'll just blow **** up and play MP.
at this point, i imagine that my final review when i complete it will probably come to the conclusiuon that it is very enjoyable, but not as good as the first, though i do not like referencing other games in reviews. I might change my mind by then anyway.
Gameply- i'd probaly go for 8 instead of 6, as i am enjoying it, and actually prefer the suit controls like this. tbh, streamlined has become a dirty word, but it's not always bad. i would say that it has worked here. I am starting to see some AI problems though, hope they can fix that.
-you say it's a typical fixed path, point to point FPS. When you think about it, isn't every FPS like that really, with the odd exception. Yes, it's slightly more linear than 1, but it's not like you could invent your own story, or make any proper decisions in the first.
I would say that in terms of Linearity, it just seems like Crysis 2 has less options. In crysis, you might have a choice of how to get somewhere, but you still have to get there, Crysis 2 has pretty much been the same so far in my experience, it just seems like it's limiting your options, but the limits have always been there. (thats the way i see it anyway)
Though that tactical view thing is really starting to annoy me, can't it let me find my own way instead of highlighting everything fo me!!
-Multiplayer. Have you done the fix for the serial key problem? log in to MP, then go to single player, then log back in to MP aand it will save the key so that you do not have to enter it again
. You probably still won't get a game though desperately need fixing.- plotline. Yes, it's bad. I have no idea what is going on or who these people are
Doesn't bother me that much though, as it was never going to win any awards, and i can't remember a FPS with a story i've actually liked. i'll just blow **** up and play MP.at this point, i imagine that my final review when i complete it will probably come to the conclusiuon that it is very enjoyable, but not as good as the first, though i do not like referencing other games in reviews. I might change my mind by then anyway.
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It's more the way it presents those choices, the size of the playing field, and the options the game gives you. Crysis 2 feels very very cramped and limited compared to the first games, and as a sequel it will always be compared to those games and not others (like CoD, FEAR etc.) that Crysis 2 is more similar to.
Oh yes, I forgot about this little gem. The tac visor is sooooooo annoying. Yes highlight enemies for me, and let me spy on conversations and the like. But don't spell the level out for me. Might as well have a neon sign saying "CLIMB UP THIS BIT!", "THEN OVER HERE AND GET SOME AMMO!", "LOOK! LOOK! HERE'S THE EXIT! OVER HERE!!!!".
Give me an objective yes, but don't hold my hand all the way there!
If you check Crytek on wikipedia, between their 5 development studios they have a grand total of 580 employees.
If you imagine that the average wage is around £20k a year, that's a yearly wagebill of around £11 million
If you imagine that the average wage is around £20k a year, that's a yearly wagebill of around £11 million
A patch to remove the tactical view would MASSIVELY improve this game, in fact, it would be a completely different game!! It would also make the game seem far less linear, as we were saying, by letting you find your own way instead of holding your hand.
i really think that there aren't necessarily less choices, it's just too easy to find them with this damn tactical visor rubbish
i really think that there aren't necessarily less choices, it's just too easy to find them with this damn tactical visor rubbish
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I agree with a lot of what you've said.
I've not tried the multiplayer (and probably wont) so I cannot comment.
Graphics are pretty decent for a DX9 game. My PC still slows to a crawl on the extreme settings with 1920x1200 but it's fine on the very high setting.
It feels more clunky than the previous Crysis games. I didn't enjoy the tank driving part in the early stages of the game. The controls were horrendous and it felt more like you were sailing a cruise liner down the road than anything else.
The AI is pretty poor. The enemies don't seem to come after you, and instead they wait for you to come after them. They seem to forget you are even there once you go cloaked and just walk around without caution. On occasion I have come uncloaked infornt of enemies and they didn't even notice me... leaving me to kill them easily. And on the opposite side of the coin, some enemies seem to have super-nano-x-ray-duper-vision and spot me when I come uncloaked when I'm behind some obstacle or even from the complete opposite side of the map.
Maybe some expect the impossible with games now, I am loving this game was very doubtful over the whole city setting but I think its made the game more fun for me to play.
The simple fact is they will make much more money from doing it on the consoles than the pc so who can blame them, I still say name me a game that looks this good on dx11.
The simple fact is they will make much more money from doing it on the consoles than the pc so who can blame them, I still say name me a game that looks this good on dx11.
I agree, i think it look brilliant, and a lot of people complaining are just doing so for the sake of it, BUT, i can also see their views in some cases, as this quote from KitGuru says
I can understand where they are coming from tbh, but that doesn't mean it looks in any way bad.
Metro 2033, but that's a terrible game as well
(plus it runs like crap)Anywho, as I said, my problem isn't with the graphics, for DX9, and for the style of game they've made, it's great.
Hell Crysis was DX9, and that's still imho the best looking PC game ever made.
So DX9 isn't an issue for me. Though it is annoying that they've not implemented a DX11 mode to push today's systems, it isn't world ending.
What is my problem is that the gameplay is average, and the storyline is pants.