The disappearance of Nicola Bulley

[Meddling-Monk]

If it's a grassy area, would it be possible for something like a grass snakes (that I believe are in the area) that might have spooked the dog or Nicola that might have sent them into the water?

 

[the shadow]

Bring back julian sands.

 

[Firestar_3x]

If it's a grassy area, would it be possible for something like a grass snakes (that I believe are in the area) that might have spooked the dog or Nicola that might have sent them into the water?

The dog was found dry.

 

[adam cool dude]

The dog was found dry.

That is the strange one. My border collie absolute hates water. She runs a mile when I grab the hose pipe yet if we go to the sea side or the Lake District she will come in without fail if we are in the water. Iirc her dog was a spaniel and any working dog would do the same.

 

[Meddling-Monk]

The dog was found dry.

Yes, but if something spooked my dog and I ran towards it and then slipped or toppled into the water, and the dog remains will remain bone dry, that doens't mean there was not such an event. Not that I'm saying there was, but just wondering if such often used pathways may harbour such reptiles, as it does appear to be something that can be found in the area from a quick search. I know if something popped up out of the blue, even a calm and collected person may falter for a moment.

 

[Felon]

It is all a bit odd.

However, I think the idea she was abducted or there was foul play is really unlikely.

It feels like there were too many people around, (other dog walkers, etc) in broad daylight. That combined with the fact that there couldn't have been a vehicle anywhere near where she disappeared, if someone had abducted/murdered her, they'd have to have man-handled her all the way to a vehicle or somewhere out of sight, it doesn't really add up.

If somebody wanted her dead, or whatever - there would have far more practical and sensible ways to achieve it, than in broad daylight in a public area..

I suspect she did fall in, with the clothes she was wearing and the fact she probably wasn't used to swimming in cold water, meant she had little to no chance.

 

[bazzabear]

Occam's Razor comes to mind.

OMG!

This guy thinks she was attacked with a razor!!!!

(That's how this social media theory forming works, right? )

 

[Wizzfizz]

The dog was near the bench, it could be that she fell in yes, but the dog would have been barking a least, or maybe jumped in. If she was abducted the dog would have been barking like crazy and tracking her. The dog being alive also.

Phone left on bench could have been to put other people off her scent and she left and doesn't wish to be found. Her mental health?

 

[aVdub]

Do we know what the subject of the video call was? Bad news, usual news, good news?

 

[Uther]

It's very easy to go 'missing'. The police are still searching for that couple with the baby, and they disappeared a couple of weeks ago.
An aquaintance of mine disappeared 3 weeks ago. His phone, wallet, bank cards, car keys are in the house, he's just gone.

 

[GGizmo]

I “don’t believe” “rumours” “I think”

IF this guy is who he says he is, he sounds like a disgrace to the profession. He admits he doesn’t know any of the details then just states conclusions like fact.

He is just trying to advertise his business (we are best in the world - freebie to attract more clients on the back of a dead woman!) that is some morally questionable TV appearance.

Again listen to it (did you listen to it before you posted?)

Tell me what evidence the police have for the theory she fell in?

Because so far they haven't shown any evidence to anyone.

At least be consistant with your criticism.

 

[Uther]

Are you a relative? You seem quite involved in the case.

 

[wesimmo]

I think this is a key point here that many, many people overlook.

The average person vastly under-estimates the strength of water current and often believes they could easily swim "against the tide" etc.. when the reality is very different.

I've very often nearly fallen over in very low water while wading and fishing for trout/salmon even with a walking stick. Its surprisingly powerful even when you're planted and expecting it. Falling in or being unbalanced and it would be easy to be swept some way.

 

[Haggisman]

Tell me what evidence the police have for the theory she fell in?

Because so far they haven't shown any evidence to anyone.

At least be consistant with your criticism.

Do they have any evidence that something else happened?

You seem very happy to point criticism at them for pursuing the theory that she fell in, but in the absence of any evidence at all, what do you think they should be doing?

 

[SpellowHouse]

I've very often nearly fallen over in very low water while wading and fishing for trout/salmon even with a walking stick. Its surprisingly powerful even when you're planted and expecting it. Falling in or being unbalanced and it would be easy to be swept some way.

And you also probably know that water is very cold in this weather. It's an overwhelming shock to the system to fall in. Only the young and healthy survive more than a few minutes.

 

[One More Solo]

Do they have any evidence that something else happened?

You seem very happy to point criticism at them for pursuing the theory that she fell in, but in the absence of any evidence at all, what do you think they should be doing?

Interviewing the dog?

 

[mysticsniper]

Do they have any evidence that something else happened?

You seem very happy to point criticism at them for pursuing the theory that she fell in, but in the absence of any evidence at all, what do you think they should be doing?

If she fell into the water and drowned, bodies usually rise up out of the water after 3-5 days depending how cold the water is in the river.

I'd like to know what was on the email she sent to her boss in the morning.

 

[n111ck]

Tell me what evidence the police have for the theory she fell in?

Because so far they haven't shown any evidence to anyone.

At least be consistant with your criticism.

The fact that there is no evidence of her leaving the area is surely the evidence that she fell in the river.

They clearly have reasonable CCTV coverage of the area so the chances of her being abducted and not spotted are tiny plus add in the fact that the dog remained in the area and didn't follow her or get killed by any abducter.

I get the family dont like the idea of the river theory because then it just becomes an accident with no one to blame and also removes any chance of her being found alive.

 

[n111ck]

If she fell into the water and drowned, bodies usually rise up out of the water after 3-5 days depending how cold the water is in the river.

I'd like to know what was on the email she sent to her boss in the morning.

The river is 15 feet deep in places and she was reportedly wearing heavy clothes so could be caught up under water somewhere.

 

[mysticsniper]

The fact that there is no evidence of her leaving the area is surely the evidence that she fell in the river.

They clearly have reasonable CCTV coverage of the area so the chances of her being abducted and not spotted are tiny plus add in the fact that the dog remained in the area and didn't follow her or get killed by any abducter.

I get the family dont like the idea of the river theory because then it just becomes an accident with no one to blame and also removes any chance of her being found alive.

I don't know why the police would come out and say anything without having any evidence to back it up.

Surely the smart play is to say the investigation is ongoing, we're doing everything etc...

The river is 15 feet deep in places and she was reportedly wearing heavy clothes so could be caught up under water somewhere.

Some places it's only 18 inches deep. They've been searching the water for over a week, and found nothing.

If the dog was wet, then maybe, but this is the type of dog that loves the water, so if she fell in the dog would have been in with her.