The Division. Are we interested?

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I watched one or two early access videos - the game looks good, but I'm not gonna be ordering until there's a slew of reviews, and TB has reviewed it.

It's got scope to be good, but from the short videos I've seen of it in action, it might be a bit flat after a little while - a la Watch Dogs.
 
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How do you feel about "gamer-victims" buying based on false advertising and promotional videos that don't reflect the product?

I'll leave this here:

Ok, so you want to see this before every single trailer, at every expo?

"WARNING : This trailer represents a work in progress and is meant to be generally indicative of the gameplay experience. It does not represent a binding contract to deliver exactly what is shown at this stage."

I will get stick for defending my employer...but meh. You can check my posting history I generally take the side of the devs when the poo-flinging starts when discussing games I'm interested in. Let's just say I don't attribute to malice, evil, lying or incompetence, that which can be much more likely attributed to complexity, time pressure, design decisions, creative differences, or any one of the myriad other things that can impact a game's development.

A lot of people on here work in IT. So they appreciate how difficult a large software engineering project can be on it's own. Just remember that AAA game development has all the expense, complexity and risk of a major software engineering project, PLUS the nightmare of a large, collaborative creative work, AND the creation and rollout of a global *realtime* IT service product. Oh and you get paid way less than other industries and have a toxic slice of the community constantly telling you you're ********ing useless and you should go jump off a bridge. It's fun :)

Just try the beta and make your own mind up. Most of the negative assumptions here...well....just wait til the beta.
 
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Woah this thread has gone wild.

I'll wait until the PC Beta runs before making my mind up, sadly I am away the weekend of the beta, so will be relying on the TB/youtube reviews (bar the paid for people like JackFlags/LvLCrap/Xfagtor et al).

Still hoping for good things though, pretty monumental task for Ubi tbh.
 
It will still be big but that doesn't change the fact that they lied, again.... :(

I could have sworn that ubisoft said they had learned from their mistakes with watch dogs???

I may have missed it, but where have they confirmed before the size of the map up till now? I know a few videos seemed to hint at other areas, but they didn't confirm it did they?

I will say, it does forever to walk from one side of the map to the other!
 
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Woah this thread has gone wild.

I'll wait until the PC Beta runs before making my mind up, sadly I am away the weekend of the beta, so will be relying on the TB/youtube reviews (bar the paid for people like JackFlags/LvLCrap/Xfagtor et al).

Still hoping for good things though, pretty monumental task for Ubi tbh.

The NDA goes down on the beta starts so you'll be able to get plenty of independent opinion.

The only real disappointment I think is going to come from people expecting an action shooter. Think more Diablo with guns and you'll have your expectations set.
 
Lots of speculation and hair pulling.

It will be good to get our hands on the beta and throw our muck at it for a couple of days and then put some of this to rest.

I'll say one thing, graphics dramas aside, I'm being drawn into the story. The whole aspect of a city under siege and the realism of it. It might just be me, but I love apocalyptic stories and seeing it all go to ****.
 
To me it looks similar to Watchdogs but with the movement of Metal Gear.

I wonder what the In-app purchases will be....

I'm sure I read somewhere that it's just cosmetic stuff.

I think it was Jackfrags who said in his video that any in game items will be cosmetic only. That's not to say there won't be paid DLC available outside the game though. I'm sure there will be a season pass and, as usual, precious little information about what's in it.
 
I may have missed it, but where have they confirmed before the size of the map up till now? I know a few videos seemed to hint at other areas, but they didn't confirm it did they?

I will say, it does forever to walk from one side of the map to the other!

Don't know if they "confirmed" it or not although in the early trailers iirc they did show Brooklyn, they certainly give us the impression that there was more to it than just midtown Manhattan anyway, I'm not really bothered if it is just MM as I rather have more detail in the gameworld and better draw distances, better performance etc. than a empty feeling world with ****** draw distances i.e. like Assassins creed's draw distance and as you said, it will still be very big.

It has most likely been removed for DLC purposes though :rolleyes:
 
After watching some of the Xbone videos all the NPCs seem to be the same player model, chaps with red hoods.

Is that intentional? Are they part of a gang in game, like a uniform? Or is this subject to change in the full release? Just looks a little odd, they even pull the same poses at the same time.
 
I honestly wish I could post or answer questions as I've been in the alpha for over a year now. (I've only just found this thread what?!).
The game .... by far different to any mmo that's come out in the last 8 years, and is actually by far one of the best I've played in the last 5.
I'd say it may be harder late game if you don't group or have a friend (especially in dark zone) but there's an update coming soon just before beta so.. :)
 
Which mmo do you consider better than the Division?

Well it's all down to what someone prefers.
Someone who heavily plays WoW will think the devision is completely different - which in most ways it is.

I for instance played the secret world a lot, and you can change the camera look to that OF the division so I picked it up pretty fast. But in someways I still prefer the secret because well.... 1 it's a full game still :P
 
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