The Dubai thread!

Interesting to see the difference in opinions in this thread from those who actually live there or spent a fair bit of time there, and those who get all their information from the media.

Never been myself, doesn't really interest me although my family went and really enjoyed it.
 
Interesting to see the difference in opinions in this thread from those who actually live there or spent a fair bit of time there, and those who get all their information from the media.

Hardly. Plenty of people who've actually been have also said it's a terrible place to visit.

I can't fathom why anyone would want to go to such a socially backwards country, in a desert.
 
I can't fathom why anyone would want to go to such a socially backwards country, in a desert.

I completely disagree with you there. In fact, saying that just because this or that country is inferior or less civilised because it is different with different rules and customs is, in my opinion, a very imperialist mindset. I was going to write a massive reply but I would just be repeating the same arguments that have been said before and you would reply with the same arguments that have been said before so none of us would get anywhere. For this reason, I'm out of this thread.
 
The building work is already slowing down, the weather is not naturally habitable if it not for technology. When the oil runs out, and it will, the money will dry up, people will leave, the city population will plummet and the desert will take it back.

I may be dead when that happens but I am pretty sure it will.

It is a place built out of a dream but a rich man who wants attention. Build it and they will come idea. Are they will come, but when you see past the shallow facade, past the pretty surfaces you will realise that it is empty inside.
 
The building work is already slowing down, the weather is not naturally habitable if it not for technology. When thebee oil runs out, and it will, the money will dry up, people will leave, the city population will plummet and the desert will take it back.

I may be dead when that happens but I am pretty sure it will.

It is a place built out of a dream but a rich man who wants attention. Build it and they will come idea. Are they will come, but when you see past the shallow facade, past the pretty surfaces you will realise that it is empty inside.

Dubai has been a trading post for centuries before oil was discovered there, so I assure you it is habitable. Furthermore, most of the oil wealth in the UAE is in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, Dubai's oil wealth was never that great, hence why they started to diversity the economy into media, telecomms and tourism some 20 years ago. Sure it's been badly affected by the global economic crisis, but my guess is in a few years it will be business as normal.

I'm personally don't like what Dubai has become, but it's getting an overly harsh write up in this thread lol.
 
It's great for a relaxing holiday. It has a great selection of really decent hotels too. We've been 4 times now and going again in September with the baby. Granted it doesn't have that much culture but there is plenty to see and do if you are happy to leave the resort.
 
That's one giant article I would like to read a bit later when I have more time!

I've always been fascinated with the Burj Dubai (Annoyingly now called Burj Khalifa) and still hope to make a trip there for a short time.
I've been told by people who were there that it's very nice, but with lots of nuances. For one, to get IN to the tower, there's a few of about $300. Lame.

The fact that it's heavily religious and the laws there are inhumane will ultimately be their demise. The fact that everything is grinding to a halt, slowly, is sign of that. I'm very much dissuaded from going there because of the seemingly stupid instances people have got in to trouble for. Also, I do not appreciate it when there are absurd rules to adhere to, in a county that heavily tries to sell its tourism. No thanks, please turn universal, then invite me and we can party!
 
Dubai has been a trading post for centuries before oil was discovered there, so I assure you it is habitable. Furthermore, most of the oil wealth in the UAE is in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, Dubai's oil wealth was never that great, hence why they started to diversity the economy into media, telecomms and tourism some 20 years ago

and it was Abu Dhabi with it's oil wealth that bailed out the failing Dubai, hence the renaming of the Burj Khalifa
 
Only ever went as my Auntie stays over there, Amazing in December, Horriblely hot and unbearable any other time of year.
 
OK, the same points keep being brought up again and i think they need to be rebuked

"slave labour: Yes some people from the Indian Sub-continent come here and work hard for what we would consider a small amount, but it is nothing like the slave labour that is being portrayed. Yes some people are tricked/conned into coming over, usually by their fellow countrymen, not the locals. Their pay, while low (around £300 a month) is enough to send a lot home to their families and is way more than they could earn back home, if they could even find a job (e.g. Bangladesh's GDP/capita is $1700 (2010), if they earn £300 a month they get $4,900 a year - 2.8x the national average).
IT IS ILLEGAL for an employer to hold an employee's passport for any reason and the government will get involved if this happens. There is even an anonymous government hotline to report employers.

Sharia Law - Yes it's got a 'muslim' sounding word in, but in reality it's not that different from the UK, there are laws, lawyers, court. You're not going to get arrested for holding hands with your girlfriend, you're not going to get executed unless you did something really stupid. The Emiratis have really accommodated for western culture by allowing Churches, Pork and Alcohol etc. I can't imagine that happening in the UK if a group of people came to their country and wanted to do something which is strictly forbidden by their religion.

"Dubai is just rich Arabs wasting their money" - 50 years ago the UAE had nothing, a few camels, date farms and oyster fishing, then they found oil, 50 years from now when the oil runs out they will have nothing. They realise this. So what do you do? You try and build up an economy not based around oil as quickly as you can. How do you attract people from around the world? It has to blow everything else out the water, a low rise business park with a Holiday Inn isn't going to cut it, so you end up with Dubai. Did it work? Of course, Dubai is the undisputed Hub of the middle east and a bridge between Europe and Asia. Yes it was hit hard by the financial crisis like the rest of the world, undoubtably more so with the growing pains of a developing country, but it is getting back on track with 3% economic growth forecast in 2011, almost double the UK's 1.7%

The weather - Yes it's hot in summer - 50C some days. But remember if you live there you're not on the beach all day, you're in an office, so it's a non issue, kind of like winter in the UK, you don't go outside that much. The other 9 months of the year is like a perfect summer's day every day, although if you're straight off the boat it might take some getting used to. Imagine that! you can eat outside in restaurants, plan a BBQ and not have it rained off, go camping in the mountains without being washed out and take up hobbies you'd never consider at home, Scuba diving and the like...

But anyway i live here and love it so I am biased but I'm just trying to give both sides of the story. Dubai is by no means 'complete', it still has a way to go to be on par with Europe culturally, legislatively and developmentally, but give them some slack! they've had 50 years, Europe's had almost 1000!
 
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