Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 452 45.0%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 553 55.0%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .
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Not even wrong... and it shows!



Cleaning up one's act generally helps, yes.



Boris is not 'really' British.



From the school of hard knocks, no doubt? I somehow doubt that HMRC accept certificates in mass hysteria in lieu of formal qualifications these days.

Start at 1910 with the meeting at Jekyll island.

Try the City of London?

Try Vatican City?

Try Coudenhove-Kalergi plan ?

You don't have a clue on how the world ticks and I can assure you no matter who you or I vote for in government its just all bull.

:D

It does go back further but educate yourself and see what the world is for what it is.

I see a choice and I want to take that choice. ;)
 
Not sure if it has been posted before. But President Obama has said in an interview with the BBC that if Britain left the EU then it could take up to 10 years for us to negotiate a trade deal with the USA.

One of the reasons I said previously that I wanted the UK to stay in the EU was because I don't think we have the clout to go it alone. This interview seems to back up that idea. The USA won't give priority to a UK trade deal when their biggest trading partner is the EU which instead will take priority.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36120808
 
It's not so much clout, but sheer time. Making these deals takes time. Governments don't do things quickly
 
Not sure if it has been posted before. But President Obama has said in an interview with the BBC that if Britain left the EU then it could take up to 10 years for us to negotiate a trade deal with the USA.

One of the reasons I said previously that I wanted the UK to stay in the EU was because I don't think we have the clout to go it alone. This interview seems to back up that idea. The USA won't give priority to a UK trade deal when their biggest trading partner is the EU which instead will take priority.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36120808

I suggest you which it a few more times and then ask yourself. What part will Obama take in any negotiations post brexit. The answer is none.
 
I suggest you which it a few more times and then ask yourself. What part will Obama take in any negotiations post brexit. The answer is none.

What possible relevance is that? He still knows how it works and its not as if his potential successor is a total unknown to him is it!?
 
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What possible relevance is that? He still knows how it works and its not as if his potential successor is a total unknown to him is it!?

Oh come on he was reading from a script and you know it. You are also assuming Hillary is going to win.
 
With the rest of the sentence obviously.

As for disgust, let's leave that as your own view. I wouldn't put the ramblings of one extreme member, as language that speaks for the whole leave camp.

P.S. I wouldn't agree with further enlargement including Turkey, but that is far from disgust, or a reason to vote leave.

Stolen elections, blatant support of the most vile of terrorists, newspapers closed, tv chanels closed, over 2000 people charged with insulting the president, stealing another countrie's oil and keeping the loot in the family and an all out military attack on Kurds and you say they're not disgusting. By the way my quote was in context that context being the wrong label of fear of turdkey rather than the correct disgust with turdkey.
 
There will be a deal... how long will it take, and will it be better, worse, or equal to TTIP (I realise at this point a load of people will spack about TTIP/spew misinformation about it)? In much the same way as there will obviously be trade between the UK and the EU, but the question is under what terms... will it be under terms which are better, worse, or equal to now (and what will come with it... eg. if we want to trade as we do now, with no tariffs, will we have to pay into the EU and accept the free movement of people)?

There aren't any answers to this. But given the relative Clout of the US and EU compared to the UK, I can't see any new potential trade deals having the same or better terms for the UK.

The UK trying to negotiate a trade deal similar to TTIP with the US, is very unlikely to be equally weighted between both parties.

Nate
 
It's in both the U.S and UK interests to set up a trade deal. It would be foolish on both sides not to.

This is just talk to scare people yet again.

No one is saying we won't have a trade deal. What we are saying is that it will take years to negotiate. And there's no way will the UK her as good a deal as the whole EU.

It's like buying in bulk, the EU is a bigger market so get a better deal.
 
I'm not going to vote, firstly because they are all liars, secondly I would have to walk 100 yards to vote in an old scout hut .
 
Looking at what we apparently import from the USA are we really expected to believe they will suddenly stop after brexit ?

America's exports to the UK amounted to
$56.4 billion or 3.8% of its overall exports.

1. Aircraft, spacecraft: $9.7 billion
2. Machinery: $6.1 billion
3. Gems, precious metals: $5.7 billion
4. Electronic equipment: $3.8 billion
5. Pharmaceuticals: $3.7 billion
6. Vehicles: $3.1 billion
7. Medical, technical equipment: $2.8 billion
8. Collector items, art, antiques: $2.8 billion
9. Oil: $2.3 billion
10. Organic chemicals: $1.4 billion
 
The point is that we'd be missing out on improving the situation if we stayed in the EU and traded with TTIP, and that our possible future bilateral deal might not be as good as that.

"Missing out" on TTIP? Do you know what TTIP is actually all about? A lot of people know more about it than both of us and feel strongly enough to go out and march against it.

35,000 Protest TTIP Trade Deal in Hannover
Thousands across Europe protest against TTIP

What is TTIP? And six reasons why the answer should scare you


These protests have been going on for a while, one in Germany last year attracted 150,000 - 250,000 people, depending on who you believe. Here.
 
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I honestly can't fathom what part of TTIP is actually going to be beneficial to the UK.
Does a small select amount of companies actually benefit from this?
Can someone explain to be the actual benefits directly to the UK.

Nothing to do with Brexit, just TTIP.
 
Seems to me that both sides of this argument have absolutely no clue what will or wont happen if we stay/leave. Just complete speculation from both parties with completely made up facts(or impossibly hard to actually define facts) that support their own perspective.

Either way seems a punt in the dark.
 
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