Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

[platypus]

Math's is a contraction of mathematics, the word stands.

It is not a contraction of mathematics, math's is not a word at all. Anyway, this digresses from the topic.

 

[RaohNS]

Which reputable, independent, body produced that estimate?

Some dude on question time using reputed and recognized formula as a method for growth

 

[Glaucus]

Leavers should read this

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexitvote/2...-is-why-i-will-vote-remain-in-the-referendum/

 

[Hagar]

Leavers should read this

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexitvote/2...-is-why-i-will-vote-remain-in-the-referendum/

I do now know he listens to Radio 4 as I have heard most of the quotations (and the misspeak UK not EU) on there.

Nothing much new I am afraid.

 

[thep02]

It is not a contraction of mathematics, math's is not a word at all. Anyway, this digresses from the topic.

Yes it is.

Maths isn't a word and nor is math.

 

[estebanrey]

Leavers should read this

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexitvote/2...-is-why-i-will-vote-remain-in-the-referendum/

Trade. Figure 1 shows that British trade with the EU is much larger than with anyone else. Trade with China is growing more rapidly but is still very small (2.9%). In round numbers, about 45% of UK trade is with the EU, 18% with the USA and 7.3% with the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa).

Trade matters greatly. There is near-universal agreement among economists that trade contributes to higher living standards, and that reducing restrictions on trade generally increases the gains.

..the man wrote on his Korean made laptop sat on his Chinese made furniture whilst eating American fast food and enjoying a bottle of Australian wine.

The idea we can only trade if we're in the club is demonstrably false to anyone that owns an iPhone, TV or car.

 

[Glaucus]

Ok dear, shows your reasoning skills are non existent. Where does he say we can only trade in the club. Ignore everything including the difference between services and items.

You haven't even had time to read it.

 

[platypus]

Yes it is.

Maths isn't a word and nor is math.

I didn't say maths is a word, and technically math is the only real word out of the three, given that it is at least American English.

 

[FloppyPoppy]

Interesting how consistent the results were in the others months compared to this thread.. So what's changed said people's minds?

 

[RaohNS]

I didn't say maths is a word, and technically math is the only real word out of the three, given that it is at least American English.

Only on OcUK does Math's present itself as a problem.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

Interesting how consistent the results were in the others months compared to this thread.. So what's changed said people's minds?

I think a lot of the remainers are getting tired of the broken records and cringe at the arguments in here so they are ignoring newer threads. There are some valid points to leaving but the ones being shouted from the rooftops every 10 minutes seem to be the really cringey points.

Also i think generally the threads start off more out then balance out slowly

 

[estebanrey]

Ok dear, shows your reasoning skills are non existent. Where does he say we can only trade in the club. Ignore everything including the difference between services and items.

You haven't even had time to read it.

The point is we will trade with the EU regardless of whether we're in or out of it and clearly given the EU doesn't have a free trade deal with China, yet the EU is flooded with Chinese goods shows being in a big club does not restrict trade.

I don't need to read further, it's obvious he's going for the "If we pull out we won't able to/will be harder/more expensive/less attractive [delete as appropriate] to trade with the EU. This is demonstrably untrue, otherwise the most popular mobile phones in the UK wouldn't come from the US and Korea, they'd come from Germany and Spain wouldn't they.

 

[Glaucus]

Oh dear you are still failing at reasoning.
Perhaps rather than failing you should actually read it and try to understand it.

 

[thep02]

Yes it is.

Maths isn't a word and nor is math.

Though tbh as an exponent of "English is a living language I support the use of all three and anymore variations that "scan".

 

[Burnsy2023]

Maths isn't a word and nor is math.

The dictionary disagrees with you:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/maths
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/math

Both are acceptable abbreviations of mathematics and have been for a very long time.

 

[fraseredwards]

..the man wrote on his Korean made laptop sat on his Chinese made furniture whilst eating American fast food and enjoying a bottle of Australian wine.

The idea we can only trade if we're in the club is demonstrably false to anyone that owns an iPhone, TV or car.

Whut? Your post is absolute nonsense.

The lse authors said nothing of the sort. Plus your assertion that they eating mcds and drinking aussie wine whilst writing it is preposterous.

Suggest reading the text, considering the sources and using some reasoning to consider how to vote.

 

[scorza]

Interesting how consistent the results were in the others months compared to this thread.. So what's changed said people's minds?

There's only a 4% difference and this thread has only been open a day.

 

[George Hincapie]

I think a lot of the remainers are getting tired of the broken records and cringe at the arguments in here so they are ignoring newer threads. There are some valid points to leaving but the ones being shouted from the rooftops every 10 minutes seem to be the really cringey points.

Also i think generally the threads start off more out then balance out slowly

That applies both ways. The staunch Remain members just regurgitate the same tired rhetoric. It's off putting to everyone.

 

[George Hincapie]

There's only a 4% difference and this thread has only been open a day.

And actually that's a key point. I have seen the previous polls establish an early Leave lead, while Remain gradually redresses the balance over the rest of the month.

 

[jas72]

The point is we will trade with the EU regardless of whether we're in or out of it and clearly given the EU doesn't have a free trade deal with China, yet the EU is flooded with Chinese goods shows being in a big club does not restrict trade.

Of all the arguements you could have used you pick possibly the worst example you can find.

Chinese goods face import duties yet can still compete with western made goods, why is that? Could it be that China doesn't have the same living or working standards as Europe, could it be that the wages are far lower in China which allows them to produce goods so cheap that despite import duties they are still cheaper?

So on that basis and taking economics in it's most simple form (that is to make a profit you either sell more or reduce overheads) you would like UK workers to have the same pay and conditions as their Chinese counterparts to negate the lack of free trade?