Tobacco Products Directive.
Contains a whole bunch of bonkers stuff about e-cigarettes and vaping that affect me personally. Most of it flies in the face of research and publications from the RCP and PHE.
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)
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Tobacco Products Directive.
Contains a whole bunch of bonkers stuff about e-cigarettes and vaping that affect me personally. Most of it flies in the face of research and publications from the RCP and PHE.
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Hold on, you can opt out of the Working Time Directive?
Wow, talk about selective quoting of selective quoting! He saying that whilst value of the pound will go down, that's good for exporters, as part of a balanced view and non commitment.
That's such a facetious question. Just because the laws don't affect me personally doesn't mean that they don't affect others to their detriment. I don't have massive competition for my job from EU immigrants, but that doesn't mean I can't see the effect uncontrolled immigration is having on communities up and down the UK. Though I've never personally not been affected by terrorism it doesn't mean that I shouldn't worry when the ECJ says we can't deport terror suspect A. Just because I don't pay tax directly to the EU doesn't mean my own government, who I do pay tax to, doesn't have a gross liability to the EU of £350m a week.
I take working time directive as it is there to protect me 'if' i wish to not work 7 days a week or have 11 hours between shifts. The directive means that my employer cannot force me to do either of these things however if I make the choice to then no problem. I'm sure when I've read the actual document it states the word 'entitled' each time thus meaning it is my choice as to what I do and I can work 7 days a week or go in after only 8 hours from my previous shift.
Only the hours per week, not the 11 hours between shifts, day off a week or the minimum holidays.
Company in with constatntly try to leave me with only an 8 hour break. Never done it, member will.
The £350m is wrong and you know it. The rebate is applued before we pay. If Argos sell a £1000 at 20% off, it's £800, not £1000. I give them £800, not £1000.
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We've discussed this part with you more times than I can remember. But you still keep mixing in human rights into EU topics. I'm going to let Patrick Stewart do it for me this time...
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Well, the pound went up 3-4% in just today off theback of the polls which indicated we would stay within the EU, this is following the slow slide in past weeks as Brexit looked more likely.
Bar the last minute nerves that voters get, which would favour Remain, I do believe that the murder of the young MP that virtually no one had actually heard of previously, is a major factor in everyone sitting up and thinking that vote Remain might be their decision, for reasons they don't quite understand. Her death seems to have solidified the entire Remain vote, and I don't think it is collective guilt, more a case of collective sympathy and finding something to attach that sympathy to, in this case a vote where both campaigns have been divisive and negative.
Jeremy Vine today had that press chap from the times (Matthew Paris) on, and the conservative MEP (Daniel Hannan)who speaks well on, and both put forward well articulated arguments in favour of first Remain and then Leave. It was good to listen to, and beat away all the repeated divvel we've heard for months and months now.
Frankly if either campaign had just led with this man, on either side, they've have won this hands down by making the other side look like deranged slobber fools.
Also I noticed Baroness Quitter quit again today, left the Leave Brexit Campaign calling it racist and went to remain. I pondered for a while if this was a strategic move orchestrated from the start, and then realised her moving might actually hurt Remain, as frankly I wouldn't vote for anything she supported.
Bar the last minute nerves that voters get, which would favour Remain, I do believe that the murder of the young MP that virtually no one had actually heard of previously, is a major factor in everyone sitting up and thinking that vote Remain might be their decision, for reasons they don't quite understand. Her death seems to have solidified the entire Remain vote, and I don't think it is collective guilt, more a case of collective sympathy and finding something to attach that sympathy to, in this case a vote where both campaigns have been divisive and negative.
Jeremy Vine today had that press chap from the times (Matthew Paris) on, and the conservative MEP (Daniel Hannan)who speaks well on, and both put forward well articulated arguments in favour of first Remain and then Leave. It was good to listen to, and beat away all the repeated divvel we've heard for months and months now.
Frankly if either campaign had just led with this man, on either side, they've have won this hands down by making the other side look like deranged slobber fools.
Also I noticed Baroness Quitter quit again today, left the Leave Brexit Campaign calling it racist and went to remain. I pondered for a while if this was a strategic move orchestrated from the start, and then realised her moving might actually hurt Remain, as frankly I wouldn't vote for anything she supported.
Why don't you just admit you don't know what you're talking about? Suggest you look up the European Court of Justice (which is very much an EU institution) and then have a look at some of the rulings it makes on human rights grounds: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...tain-deporting-murders-rapists-and-violent-c/
A decent (non-humorous) assessment by NewsThump - WARNING, CONTRAINS A RUDE WORD:
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But again, this video is based on assumptions, because that is what economics is.
The video from the Liverpool Professor is based on fact.
Unsurprisingly, our financial payments to the EU are a bit more sophisticated than buying something at Argos - it's pure Osbornism to pretend it is. As I said, £350m a week is our gross liability - yes we get a rebate but we do not control that, the EU does (they have to vote on it every year). Even if we expect to get our rebate we have to be able to fund the full contributions until the rebate is confirmed.
And we all know what happens to rebates - just ask Blair.
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No, it is exactly the same as buying something from Argos. Again, you're just being purposefully misleading.
It's also interesting to see how so many on the leave side seem to be trying to blame her death on them losing, rather than the far right oriented murderer for her death, possibly causing some to vote remain rather than leave.
Not far off victim blaming tbh.
There you have it - according the pro-EU side, our financial arrangements with the EU are exactly like buying something from Argos
Makes you wonder why we need pages and pages of treaties written by hordes of lawyers when George Osborne could just get the national credit card out and pay for it that way.- Status