Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%
  • Total voters
    1,759
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I don't care about a slight economic downfall or that so many businesses support remain.

It's about sovereignty to me, the lawmakers to be accountable directly to the public. Global trading without having to get agreement with 27 other states.
 
grahamjenks said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/20/brexit-fake-revolt-eu-working-class-culture-hijacked-help-elite

Good summary for me showing just why you should look at who stands to gain from Brexit. Been on the same side of the argument as Boris, Farage and Gove doesn't look like the right side to be if your in any way progressively minded.
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Nicola Sturgeon, Nick Clegg and Tony Blair.

I know who I prefer by a long shot.

I definitely trust a guy trying to get fired from his nicely paid job in the EU over career politicians trying to get a job there in the future.
 
grahamjenks said:
Been on the same side of the argument as Boris, Farage and Gove doesn't look like the right side to be if your in any way progressively minded.
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Being*

That's good, I'm not progressive minded at all being a dinosaur. I don't want to see brothers and sisters marrying because love is love.
 
Woden said:
The £350m is wrong and you know it.
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Indeed. This £350m figure is proving to be quite useful. Everyone who literally hasn't been living in a cave for the last month knows it's a bogus figure - so anyone still using it is knowingly trying to mislead.


There are many ways to estimate the outcome. This article is fascinating, polls are unlikely to be most accurate prediction:
https://electionsetc.com/2016/06/19/updated-combined-eu-referendum-forecast-6/

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                               Remain % share	Leave % share	Probability Remain 
Betting markets	                       52.0	      48.0	          66.5
Prediction markets		                                          65.6
Citizen forecasts	               52.0	      48.0	          62.1
Expert forecasts	               55.1	      44.9	          62.0
Volunteer forecasts	               54.3	      45.7	          71.3
Polls	                               48.5	      51.5	          46.0
Poll based models	               50.5	      49.5	          55.0
Non-poll based models	               55.6	      44.4	
Combined forecast (mean)	       52.6	      47.4	          62.3
 
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sprite1275 said:
That vid from the Liverpool professor was very informative and it's speeches like this the public has needed not all the same old crap both parties have been spueing out over and over again.

Though again the speech is all about the economic side of things and nothing about migration. It sounds to me like it will be a lot of hard work for the gov to if we do come out but ah, they can start earning there expenses/money.
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EU law expert writing about immigration

Hope that helps.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Why does it seem likely? Because someone got murdered? It doesn't seem likely to me. I suspect the outcome will be very close - one death isn't going to change voter intention.

And whatever the outcome, a large portion of the country are going to feel very unhappy.
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Sure it'll probably be close, but any objective look at the available evidence suggests Remain is more likely. See the article I jut linked to above.
 
Her death caused a pause, a lot of reflection and publicity for the remain group, since last week polls are reversing, personally while I feel the majority in England would like to leave it won't happen, voting to leave is a major change, people typically don't like change
 
I had the chance to speak to my parents in Brighton yesterday and was unsurprised to hear that they're voting to remain, not surprising as they're also longtime green voters. I also had the chance to visit my Grandparents in Birmingham who will vote to leave, again, unsurprising as they've seen their once friendly neighbourhood turn in to a predominantly non-english, non-friendly neighbourhood. They voted in favour of the free trade agreement all those years ago but regret it now. They know they were lied to about exactly what it was they were buying in to.

It highlighted to me just how divided the country is north and south of London. Or in other words the rich and the poor. I'm convinced if my brother, still living at home, were going to schools where the teachers are having to spend disproportionate time teaching EAL children whose parents aren't interested in educating them in anything other than their home language then the opinion of the wealthy (and those living in wealthy areas) would be different.

My wife recently quit teaching after over ten years after having been both a subject and year group leader and the pressure in Northampton is intolerable, in her most recent class, which often exceeded the max class size, between 1/4 to 1/3 of the class struggled to engage because they're not from the UK or English speaking countries and their parents frequently take them out of school, often for months, to go back home to visit relatives. This adversely affects the interests of all children in the class. in a few years I'm going to be putting my son through that, if my wife weren't an outstanding teacher I'd be incredibly concerned about the impact that would be had on my child's chance at an education. Sadly I can't afford to live south of London or send him to a private school.

I know many more people North of London than South of who are or have voted leave precisely because they see and deal with the impact of unchecked, unintegrated, immigration, It'll be interesting to see the final statistics and breakdown of what ever result is returned.
 
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