Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

[Mr Jack]

The majority of that is from countries that gain the most from being in the EU due to receiving more than they put in. Where as there is a large amount of growing resent for the EU in founding countries that contribute the most. Especially France and Spain. And if these countries left, or even Britain, then the EU would start to dissolve as funding dries up.

Well, you say that, but look on page 11 of the same report at the results for the six founding nations. Expressed as net positivity (%positive - %negative, ignoring neutrals), the EU has more people viewing it positively than negatively in all six by a solid margin:

Belgium +22%
France +16%
Germany +28%
Italy +14%
Luxembourg +35%
Netherlands +21%

Spain wasn't a founding member but there the figure is +18%. And in all of these countries except France the number saying they have a positive impression has increased since the last survey.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Very well it seems judging by the Swiss economy.

Which is rather irrelevant considering I don't think any sanctions have been put in place yet.

 

[Mr Jack]

So turns out the people asking the questions from the audience at the debate last night weren't quite as they made out...

The 'working class' lad who couldn't find a job actually has a law degree and works as a paralegal

Okay, I'll give you this one, but:

The 'small business owner' whose life is being made difficult by EU rules has a property management/letting agent business

How is that not a small business?

The 'black British woman' was Miranda Grell, a former Labor Party Councillor.

How does being a former Labour Party Councillor make her not black, not British or not a woman?

 

[Mauller]

So turns out the people asking the questions from the audience at the debate last night weren't quite as they made out...

The 'working class' lad who couldn't find a job actually has a law degree and works as a paralegal
The 'small business owner' whose life is being made difficult by EU rules has a property management/letting agent business
The 'black British woman' was Miranda Grell, a former Labor Party Councillor.

Hands up, anyone shocked?

still far better than the remain campaign not answering if they would use their Veto on turkey. Or why they haven't managed Non-eu migration at all which is perfectly within their control, yet cameron seems to think its difficult.

 

[McstylisT]

Diplomatically awkward situation for Dave?

Cameron has been caught out. Blatant liar and it's now clear he is full of bull.

YOU CANNONT TRUST THIS MAN OR HIS CAMPAIGN !!!!

Vote leave and stop the nonsense

 

[McstylisT]

A clear, concise, independent, expert view on how our trade and investment prospects would really look after a leave vote;

https://www.facebook.com/StrongerInCampaign/videos/1176877825685873/

Less than two minutes long folks

They have no idea what trade deals we could achieve. It's just hot air what if'ss.

 

[Six6siX]

Okay, I'll give you this one, but:

How is that not a small business?

Oh it is, I just found myself wondering what sort of regulations could possibly be getting in her way in a business like that? The way she came across was as if there were issues in abundance.

How does being a former Labour Party Councillor make her not black, not British or not a woman?

lol. It doesn't - but having a strong political link and not mentioning it is a bit less than transparent.

The point I'm making is just that things weren't as straight cut they seemed with the audience questions (I mean, they never are really) and felt it would be better to list the lot regardless rather than single out one!

 

[Six6siX]

still far better than the remain campaign not answering if they would use their Veto on turkey.

The remain campaign doesn't have a Veto on anything.

Or why they haven't managed Non-eu migration at all which is perfectly within their control, yet cameron seems to think its difficult.

What's non-EU migration got to do with the EU?

Odd post!

 

[Nate--IRL--]

They have no idea what trade deals we could achieve. It's just hot air what if'ss.

True much of it is informed speculation. But the time to get any Deals up and running is going to too long, not to have a negative impact.

Nate

 

[Mauller]

Well, you say that, but look on page 11 of the same report at the results for the six founding nations. Expressed as net positivity (%positive - %negative, ignoring neutrals), the EU has more people viewing it positively than negatively in all six by a solid margin:

Belgium +22%
France +16%
Germany +28%
Italy +14%
Luxembourg +35%
Netherlands +21%

Spain wasn't a founding member but there the figure is +18%. And in all of these countries except France the number saying they have a positive impression has increased since the last survey.

They also only interviewed up to ~1500 people per country, some as low as 500. http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/eb/eb83/eb83_first_en.pdf#page=44 more recent Polls held online show that over 50% of the french want a referendum with a similar percentage for the spanish and a few other countries. the majority of the polls being answered by 4x or more the number compared to the numbers of people queried in the individual countries in this sheet.

Another major flaw with such a small sample with this sheet is that the sentiment can vary greatly depending on which parts of the country were polled. you are likely to find inner city areas are more EU friendly since those people are wealthier and get the most out of the EU. while people from other areas get the worst from the EU membership.

 

[Dave M]

So turns out the people asking the questions from the audience at the debate last night weren't quite as they made out...

The 'working class' lad who couldn't find a job actually has a law degree and works as a paralegal

Okay, I'll give you this one, but:

Really? You can't be working class and have a law degree now? At this point in time it's mostly a self-defined classification and if he comes from a lower skilled family background he would most likely identify as working class.

Maybe when he actually gets the job he's looking for and trains as a solicitor or barrister and in some years climbs up to be a partner and has a big house and multiple German cars - he may identify as middle class - but now, with just a bit of paper to his name and working as a legal dogs body, I'd agree with him.

 

[Mauller]

The remain campaign doesn't have a Veto on anything.



What's non-EU migration got to do with the EU?

Odd post!

It has been mentioned multiple times in various debates and interviews that each member country has a veto towards allowing new countries to join the EU. And Cameron and the remain group kept constantly saying that Turkey will never join, yet the UK is supposed to be the biggest backer of Turkey joining the EU. And when questioned, no remain campaigner would answer if they would use the UK's Veto on Turkeys membership. Neither answering with a yes or no, they just kept on with the rhetoric that Turkey would never join.

And them not controlling non EU migration and then not answering direct questions about it has to do with the integrity of the people within the remain campaign. considering that it was stated multiple times that the conservatives would decrease net immigration, yet they have done nothing. So how can you trust them now when they won't even answer a simple yes/no question?

The remain campaign is not in it for our interest, they are in it for their own. Since people with money and big business are the ones who get the most from the EU and have from the start.

 

[Phil99]

The telegraph are running a poll on their website. 70% for leave with over 600k voters

 

[McstylisT]

Oh rellyyyyy... You know what you're right.... I love my wife and kids, they're ok, but they're a tie..... i cant do what i want to do anymore! So sometimes I think change would be good.... Ya know what, Sod it, its all about me in this life.... in the bin with the wife and the kids, I've heard tinder guarantee you a bird when you want, no strings attached...

Nawwwwwwwwwwwtttt..... il stick to what works for me ta. For the past 6 years my wife and I have been through redundancy as a result of Austerity + pay ***** and pay freezes....

As of now, i have a new careers and better wages after working hard to win an interview (my old colleagues and friends lost and are now redundant). I can put food on the table, keep the roof over our head and give my kids a good life!

Why on earth would i risk giving this up on an empty promise from a scum bag party who have no brexit plan or any control over public finances!

THANKS.... But no thanks.

IN!!!!

OMG you are serious. .?

Everything you have said is the reason to leave. Immigration will take a massive increase and soon enough you or many of us will be facing redundancy again. Turks will do it for £4 less an hour.

Give your kids a better life, earn more money from your job as the reduction of cheap labour forces better pay.

Don't be one of Camerons pawns. Like your lucky to have your job. Like you should thank Cameron for it. Truth is you deserve it and so do we all. Protect the uk, protect our way of life.

Vote to leave !!!!

 

[Mauller]

You also know the remain camp is becoming desperate when they start playing the Nazi card.

 

[Tefal]

Nawwwwwwwwwwwtttt..... il stick to what works for me ta. For the past 6 years my wife and I have been through redundancy as a result of Austerity + pay ***** and pay freezes....

yeah you went through all that in the EU tough

 

[Tefal]

True much of it is informed speculation. But the time to get any Deals up and running is going to too long, not to have a negative impact.

Nate

but the status quo inst just going to end. then negotiations start.

negotiations will; be on going before the current deal ends.,

all regs are currently harmonised too so it will be hard to ind sticking points i na trade deal tbh.

 

[Errol]

The telegraph are running a poll on their website. 70% for leave with over 600k voters

Link?

 

[McstylisT]

Open our eyes, see the remain has lied to its own believers and it's all about votes. They don't care about us or the people who work and live here. It's all about Europe and working towards the superstate.

Let's take back control. Finally. LEAVE......

 

[Skunkworks]

As someone who is part Italian, who has family and property there and who's native tongue is Italian, I would like to know what you guys think caused Italy to go into this sorry state. I have a good idea and in my opinion little of it is actually the EU's fault. Most Italians i speak to share a similar opinion, i cant really fathom why the EU is getting the blame in the UK.

German cars are well made and reliable whereas Italian cars are made of paper mache?