Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote? (New Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?


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A person has lived their life under the EU rule. They know what's what. And how it's affected them.

How has it affected you then?

I'd imagine most people have no real idea how the EU has affected them - I include myself in that. Without sitting down and spending far longer than I'd like doing research I couldn't tell you exactly which things that have had an effect are because of the EU and which are not. Sure, I know bits, but not everything.

It's simply wrong to say everyone who has lived in the EU must therefore know what it's done and what it hasn't done that's affected them.
 
Funny!

I spoke to my friend yesterday and I don't see him much he lives in Shrewsbury.

He works in a meat processing plant with loads of Polish. I said "How are you going to vote about the EU". He said "I don't give a **** if we in or out, I wont be better off".

I just................

He's probably right though
 
If you include yourself in that then you must be prepared to admit that you could be completely wrong and the UK may be better off outside the EU.

I'm more than happy to admit that. I genuinely don't know. I lean towards thinking we are better off in as you can probably tell from my posts here, but I'm happy to accept there might be a bunch of stuff I don't know.

What I'm absolutely not going to do is vote out because The Daily Mail cherry picks some Polish people who send benefits to the UK or vote in because somebody else tells me anyone who wants out is a Xenophobe.
 
Yep and? You unwilling to admit you could be wrong as well? It's always bad to have blinds unmovable faith.
However it's not going to be general public or people in this thread that can prove that.

What I do know is a lot of the points the out people have posted in this thread are utter nonsense.

Of course I'm willing to admit I could be wrong. Could well be that neither of us are right or wrong.

Could be a fact that any effects of staying or leaving have been grossly exaggerated and in reality, it won't make a jot of difference to normal folk.
 
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What I'm absolutely not going to do is vote out because The Daily Mail cherry picks some Polish people who send benefits to the UK or vote in because somebody else tells me anyone who wants out is a Xenophobe.
Why make that association? So many negative connotations surrounding the "leave" vote. I truly wish for positivity from both camps over the next few months.
 
How would he be better in? ;)

Plenty of reports showing benefits of being in, including wages.
Let alone things like EU pollution regulations that have helped all of us, and we still fail to achieve a fair few of them, so saying our government would do it. Isn't correct.
 
Funny!

I spoke to my friend yesterday and I don't see him much he lives in Shrewsbury.

He works in a meat processing plant with loads of Polish. I said "How are you going to vote about the EU". He said "I don't give a **** if we in or out, I wont be better off".

I just................

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He does have a point, itchy. It's not a point I or you would subscribe to, but I've heard it in this thread as well. Political apathy and low turnouts are quite common in the general population. As Glaucus mentioned -- quite a bit of our day-to-day is outside politics, and it's not very British to harp on about it in public anyway. Hence why you get a lot of chatter online, but life goes on outside, lol, and everyone just mulls it over privately.
 
Plenty of reports showing benefits of being in, including wages.
Let alone things like EU pollution regulations that have helped all of us, and we still fail to achieve a fair few of them, so saying our government would do it. Isn't correct.

About 5% of the UK workforce earn the NMW.

About 21% of the workforce earn less then the Living Wage.

Has being in the EU helped them?
 
Without wanting to sound aloof, to a guy who works in a meat processing plant it probably doesn't make a single bit of difference. The biggest influence the EU has on his day to day life is likely to be the worker protections he enjoys as part of our membership.

Any suggestion that all the Polish workers going back home should we leave the EU will improve pay and conditions in what is essentially an unskilled job is laughable. I assume that was the reason for bringing up the fact that his colleagues are from Poland, it's quite hard to tell sometimes.
 
Why put our nation down. :confused:

We are a very powerful country, even now we hold the cards to a lot of banking and finance. We no Greece or Spain. ;)

I did not vote for Europe to dictate our laws, who voted for Donald Tusk? No one! not a single European.

Just no on so many levels. :mad:
 
You only technically vote for your local MP so to claim that the President of the European Council is unelected is a strange position to take.
 
Why put our nation down. :confused:

We are a very powerful country, even now we hold the cards to a lot of banking and finance. We no Greece or Spain. ;)

I did not vote for Europe to dictate our laws, who voted for Donald Tusk? No one! not a single European.

Just no on so many levels. :mad:

Will workers rights improve if we leave?
 
Whos putting it down, However the world has changed since we were alone and continues to do so. Birders are getting less important.
EU is the second largest economy in the world, which brings plenty oft good benefits from being involved with it.
 
You only technically vote for your local MP so to claim that the President of the European Council is unelected is a strange position to take.

It's in the same ballpark as claiming the Tories didn't really win a majority last GE, or people saying the House of Lords should stop its scrutinising function immediately because they were appointed, unlike the lower chamber of Parliament.
 
if that's ABP meats in Shrewsbury there's a good reason loads of Poles work there, its because the locals who apply there tend to be either smackheads or unemployables that just dont bother turning up on time half the time. Its also not a great job which the poles don't mind but the locals turn their noses up at.

Source: I used to live there, my parents used to threaten me that if I didn't do well at school I'd have to go and work there.
 
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