Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote? (New Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

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Burnsy2023 said:
Take the banking crisis. Whilst very few people here were directly affected, the indirect effects were widespread and profound - which is probably a root cause to why people hate bankers so much, they were effected by someone else's actions.
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People dislike bankers so much because bankers are rich and 99% of the population aren't. Haters going to hate.
 
George Hincapie said:
I think that's a dangerous position to take. The public should be allowed to vote for something as significant as this, regardless of how well informed they are, regardless of the motivation for their choice.
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Disagree, it's dangerous giving people a vote on something this large, that the big percentage can not and will not be informed about. Allowing the majority what ever they think power is insane. As proved many times in the passed. What's the saying people are intelligent and groups are dumb.
Bankers are a perfect example of a modern group that needs protecting from the idiotic masses. Imagine what would happen if we had direct democracy for that. Uk would lose it's largest sector overnight.

Should be left to those in the know that have been democratically voted in. However that beings up it's own problems and flaws with our current system.
 
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Glaucus said:
Disagree, it's dangerous giving people a vote on something this large, that the big percentage can not and will not be informed about.

Should be left to those in the know that have been democratically voted in. However that beings up it's own problems and flaws with our current system.
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Because they will vote the correct way?
 
Glaucus said:
Disagree, it's dangerous giving people a vote on something this large, that the big percentage can not and will not be informed about. Allowing the majority what ever they think power is insane.
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No, that's democracy - the power of the people. If we have no direct say on important issues, then all we are doing effectively is voting in dictators every general election. No thanks.
 
robfosters said:
While this is true, it's plainly obvious that the vast majority will vote on what suits their own lives and possible prejudices, not the UK as a whole. Doesn't give them any less right to have their say.
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I would think this is absolutely the right way to apply your vote. Conclude it on your personal situation as opposed to supporting some supposed wider "greater good". Life is ever so fleeting and whole I would not be so insular as to adopt a "me and my own" attitude I do feel an undertone exists that cajoles and berates public thinking that do not adhere to certain levels of social liberalism.
 
itchy said:
That is quite a derogatory statement !

So you saying 99.99% of the population are thick and cannot make an informed choice? :confused:
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Nope, not saying they're thick. For a start I include myself in that.
If the movement wants to give us all 4 years of and an incentive study regime, then sure lets have a vote, not relay practical.
 
I am with Boris, I would be out in a heartbeat, and will vote this way when the vote comes along.

there is nothing to debate, one country, one government, one nation.

**** Brussels.
 
George Hincapie said:
No, that's democracy - the power of the people. If we have no direct say on important issues, then all we are doing effectively is voting in dictators every general election. No thanks.
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We don't and never have had direct democracy, referendums are a very rare blip, so no it's not democracy. Democracy works well with out direct democracy.
You don't get to vote in basically all of politics.
 
Glaucus said:
We generally di not have direct democracy. So it's a moot point. Public is extremely rarely this involved in such policies.

People may want a day, doesn't mean they should. Unless they are well enough informed.

It's like the old BBC rules which were thankfully changed the other year, everything had to have the other side, so science backed up with data always had a CT counter point with no evidence, no support or anything.
Such actions are not a good way to run anything.
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Ancient Athens had a form of direct democracy. Still didn't stop it from terminating people for speaking their mind or tyrants from rising, for starters. Likewise it ended up with the wealthy, the specially trained and the demagogues having a field day swinging crucial decisions. It gets romanticised too much. Some of the classic debates are in essence a very archaic-sounding GD! :D

Informed citizenry is a must, which is how we justify formal education. On top of the separated and balanced powers of the legislature, the judiciary and the executive; to which we then send, what we consider through various selection system, the best candidates representative of our 'informed views' and capable of making at least marginally more objective decisions for the benefit of the group. Alas... it ain't a perfect approach either. But regressing is equivalent to madness -- you keep trying the same things, over and over again, hoping the next time it'll all be different, or the people will be more ideal; for direct democracy, that is. :o
 
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Glaucus said:
Nope, not saying they're thick. For a start I include myself in that.
If the movement wants to give us all 4 years of and an incentive study regime, then sure lets have a vote, not relay practical.
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If you include yourself in that then you must be prepared to admit that you could be completely wrong and the UK may be better off outside the EU.
 
There should be a simple test on EU before alowed to vote. I bet even if it was as simple as how many countries are in the EU and name 5, when did UK join EU, name current president of European council, when was last election to EU parliament and who won in UK a lot of people would struggle to get it all correct.
 
robfosters said:
If you include yourself in that then you must be prepared to admit that you could be completely wrong and the UK may be better off outside the EU.
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Yep and? You unwilling to admit you could be wrong as well? It's always bad to have blinds unmovable faith.
However it's not going to be general public or people in this thread that can prove that.

What I do know is a lot of the points the out people have posted in this thread are utter nonsense.
 
Funny!

I spoke to my friend yesterday and I don't see him much he lives in Shrewsbury.

He works in a meat processing plant with loads of Polish. I said "How are you going to vote about the EU". He said "I don't give a **** if we in or out, I wont be better off".

I just................

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bayo000 said:
There should be a simple test on EU before alowed to vote. I bet even if it was as simple as how many countries are in the EU and name 5, when did UK join EU, name current president of European council, when was last election to EU parliament and who won in UK a lot of people would struggle to get it all correct.
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If it'd be anything like the citizenship test, this forum might as well go to the pub instead on the day.:D
 
itchy said:
Funny!

I spoke to my friend yesterday and I don't see him much he lives in Shrewsbury.

He works in a meat processing plant with loads of Polish. I said "How are you going to vote about the EU". He said "I don't give a **** if we in or out, I wont be better off".

I just................

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Why would he be better off out?
 
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