Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote? (New Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?


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So you want broadly protectionist policies, regardless of costs incurred and more tax that may be needed to fund them -- gotcha. Fair enough. At least you're are honest. The British electorate isn't particularly keen on all three though. How would you sell it to the public, and win the referendum?

Although my worry would still be, if we cannot out compete a few 'types', as some people here refer to Eastern EU chaps, on our home turf, what would happen to us in the big wide world with such a competitive 'advantage'?;) I agree with helping people to skill-up, retrain and stay above the water out of work; but someone has to pay for all of that with economic activity, and migrants who come here fill that gap and create wealth.



Yes. The world is ending every day on the TV, in the rags and online; people who believe them are either ignorant of history, or haven't actually looked at their adult life that closely. Perception of crisis isn't crisis; just like people's opinion about levels of crime is wildly divergent of actual crime on the ground. And yes, I did look at historic crime stats, body counts before and after the EU, frequency of regional conflicts, etc. The trend doesn't back you up.

Of course, we will always have geopolitical rivals and risks. Heaven on earth isn't really what I'm suggesting. NATO+EU makes a concentrated attack on or prolonged military conflict across Europe a remote possibility. If Europe remains together, countries like Russia can be economically crushed, without a shot being fired. It's hard to make war, or be the archetypical Russian autocrat, on an empty purse. Then we will all be back at the negotiating table, bashing out deals for gas and oil. Putin has his tactics, we have ours.

Greece wasn't allowed to fail and is in remission. Hardly a failed state in the making. But it had a lot of debt on its books. So recovery won't happen overnight, as some people expect. I don't necessarily agree fully with how negotiators handled the bailout terms, but then again I'm not providing most of the funds either.



Send this definition of refugees to the UNHCR, see if he agrees. We treat people as individuals equal before the law. It really is that simple.

It amuses me how you think having an open door to one continent whilst making it as hard as possible to enter to the rest of the world isn't protectionist.
 
For how wonderful the EU is for business, it seems like we've been in a perpetual financial crisis for the last decade

Due entirely to internal fiscal policies, not the EU. If you'd had a government with the balls to clean up the City, you wouldn't have had 10 years of financial crisis.
 
I quote from the article - Official figures show that more than 2million EU nationals are working in Britain

So what exactly is wrong with that?

So a population increase of 3% and no increase in housing, NHS, Police, Education and schooling?? :rolleyes:

They are mostly low paid workers and pay sod all in taxes! :mad:
 
So a population increase of 3% and no increase in housing, NHS, Police, Education and schooling?? :rolleyes:

They are mostly low paid workers and pay sod all in taxes! :mad:

But that is a problem with the system, we shouldn't be blaming immigrants for that, not that you are of course.
 
But that is a problem with the system, we shouldn't be blaming immigrants for that, not that you are of course.

What am saying is we don't need more uneducated people no matter where you from, either US, AUS, EU or anywhere for a fact of the matter.

We need to get out and take control of our immigration system to tide the influx of Eastern Europeans, taking low paid UK jobs.

The EU is going to hell in a hand cart that's for sure. Debts, a total imbalance of GDP, unemployment, over leveraged banks and many other things.

Rats from sinking ship springs to mind, we are UK rats! :D

Lets go boys/girls/transsexuals/homosexuals and Lesbian rats, the ship is sinking and we need to get off. ;)

VOTE OUT!
 
What am saying is we don't need more uneducated people no matter where you from, either US, AUS, EU or anywhere for a fact of the matter.

We need to get out and take control of our immigration system to tide the influx of Eastern Europeans, taking low paid UK jobs.

The EU is going to hell in a hand cart that's for sure. Debts, a total imbalance of GDP, unemployment, over leveraged banks and many other things.

Rats from sinking ship springs to mind, we are UK rats! :D

Lets go boys/girls/transsexuals/homosexuals and Lesbian rats, the ship is sinking and we need to get off. ;)

VOTE OUT!

Controlling immigration maybe good for the people of this country, I argue it is not good for big business.
 
Controlling immigration maybe good for the people of this country, I argue it is not good for big business.

I hope we're brave enough to not give a stuff about big business this time. If Goldman Sachs want us to vote remain, I won't lose much sleep voting leave. I'm quite pro-EU in principle but as it stands, it's a horrible, corrupted, disparate and undemocratic mess. Out.
 
How bloody pathetic.

Cameron must be UKIP's greatest asset !!

I wouldn't be surprised that after the dust has settled a "Nu-Tory" party is formed
 
Controlling immigration maybe good for the people of this country, I argue it is not good for big business.

yeah the cbi's yearly whine about skills is due isnt it, maybe if companies trained more people for once, rather than just expecting to find people fully trained and with 3-5 years experience like what seems to be advertised year in year out of late.

as for davey boys list of demands still not being signed off, could you imagine if he actually tried to push for more stringent things.
 
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