US: The Flash (2014)

ZXSpectrum said:
LOL Diggle went mental because in Earth2 they gave him that stupid helmet and he wanted a better one and Zoom is born... And he is black.. :eek:

It would be funny tho if they reveal him to be Tony Todd :D it truly would be a wtf/confusing troll :D
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Em, Tony Todd could be playing an old Wally West who has aged due to some weird time effects caused by high speed relativistic nonsense. Or something. :D
 
Someone posted a cool theory about the identity of Zoom that I was just reading. I'll spoiler it in case people aren't fully up to date or don't want to read it:

Jay Garrick has an identical twin on both Earth-1 and Earth-2 that he was separated from at birth. As Jay said in a previous episode when they found his Earth-1 doppelganger, his Earth-1 counterpart is called Hunter Zolomon. That means that there is also an Earth-1 Jay Garrick, and an Earth-2 Hunter Zolomon.

Earth-2 Hunter Zolomon is Zoom, and Earth-1 Jay Garrick is the man in the mask, being kept prisoner so that Earth-2 Jay Garrick, aka Earth-2 Flash, can't regain his speed.

Alternatively, the Hunter Zolomon that we saw on the park bench is in fact Zoom, but he hasn't become Zoom yet. Zoom is able to travel through time, so it's possible that Zoom travelled back to this time in an effort to steal the speed force from Earth-1 and Earth-2 Flash.
 
what if we going to get more earth's we know there earth 1 and 2, we know there going to be a supergirl crossover so that a earth ?, what if there a earth 3 (justice lord's world).
it would account for all the jay's
 
Hah, called it back in November. But...
I think original Jay is in the mask. Zoom is either a clone or other dimension Jay. I'm going with clone. Zoom is keeping him around to make more clones. Not worked out why yet though. The problem with the multidimensional aspect is if he is going through the multiverse stealing other speedster's speed, why keep the gimp alive?
 
Wow I did not expect that!! Zoom is ........:eek:
Looks like they manage to splice a few stories together.

The way Flash took down King Shark was awesome. Great episode

One thing, Wally needs a lesson for bring a a$$
 
oh I wonder if it's like the film The One in some way that zoom can only increase his speed by going to different earths and collecting Jay Garricks stealing their speed but he has to keep them alive? He came across Barry and is trying to see if a different speedster could increase his speed even more or at least decrease the time for him to reach max speed.
 
Ok, so here's my take on the situation:

Zoom = E2 Hunter Zolomon

Man in the Mask = E2 Jay Garrick (actual E2 Flash)

'Jay' = E1 Hunter Zolomon

E1 'Hunter' we saw on the bench = Was Zoom out of costume.

E1 Jay = Doesn't exist (as they've said), possibly died at childbirth, or just never existed.


So, we have Zoom (E2 Hunter) who has imprisoned Flash (E2 Jay) in the glass cube and fitted him with a mask to hide his identity. Zoom has then gone to E1, enlisted the help of E1 Hunter with promises of becoming a speedster like him if he helps him infiltrate the Flash's base of operations, win their trust, and get them to develop the 'Velocity' drug.

This is why 'Jay' didn't have his speed, not because Zoom took it, because he never had it to begin with. He was just normal non-meta E1 Hunter impersonating E2 Jay.

The whole park scene was set up between Zoom and E1 Hunter to throw Team Flash off the scent.

This also explains Masked Man's anguish after tapping out 'J-A-Y' on the glass and Barry saying that Jay's fine. He knows that's not Jay they've befriend because he is Jay.

End goal, Zoom is trying to get the perfected Velocity drug.
 
I wonder if the "Earthx" crossovers will be related to the Supergirl Crossover? There has been no talk of her or Superman or even Batman in the Flash/Arrow so its strange how they could have a crossover episode without it being shoehorned in.

Still loved the latest episode, might even watch it again tonight. It almost had me in tears (Flipping Kevin Smith lol) when Barry was explaining himself about going back in time and not saving his mother. Along with the old school Flash miners helmet in the plexi case.

Oh not to mention the entire episode being about...

FLIPPING KING SHARK!!!!!, I loved how Barry defeated him.
 
ZXSpectrum said:
I wonder if the "Earthx" crossovers will be related to the Supergirl Crossover?
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Earth 3 seems to be the working theory on pretty much every site mentioning the crossover. Plus the fact that it was while traveling through dimensions that they did the cameo thing of her, just like with Killer Frost.
 
HeX said:
Ok, so here's my take on the situation:

Zoom = E2 Hunter Zolomon

Man in the Mask = E2 Jay Garrick (actual E2 Flash)

'Jay' = E1 Hunter Zolomon

E1 'Hunter' we saw on the bench = Was Zoom out of costume.

E1 Jay = Doesn't exist (as they've said), possibly died at childbirth, or just never existed.


So, we have Zoom (E2 Hunter) who has imprisoned Flash (E2 Jay) in the glass cube and fitted him with a mask to hide his identity. Zoom has then gone to E1, enlisted the help of E1 Hunter with promises of becoming a speedster like him if he helps him infiltrate the Flash's base of operations, win their trust, and get them to develop the 'Velocity' drug.

This is why 'Jay' didn't have his speed, not because Zoom took it, because he never had it to begin with. He was just normal non-meta E1 Hunter impersonating E2 Jay.

The whole park scene was set up between Zoom and E1 Hunter to throw Team Flash off the scent.

This also explains Masked Man's anguish after tapping out 'J-A-Y' on the glass and Barry saying that Jay's fine. He knows that's not Jay they've befriend because he is Jay.

End goal, Zoom is trying to get the perfected Velocity drug.
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A good theory and a possibility of what is going on with Zoom wanting the velocity drug. Though they would need to expain some back story such as how E1 Hunter playing Jay knows about E2 meta's. I am also doubting that the man in the mask is Jay, if he was why would he not simply point at himself before or after spelling his name.
 
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NexusK said:
Earth 3 seems to be the working theory on pretty much every site mentioning the crossover. Plus the fact that it was while traveling through dimensions that they did the cameo thing of her, just like with Killer Frost.
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Yeah I thought that was going to be the case. They tend to show the "Special" Characters in the flashes between worlds.

Still it will be worth watching :)
 
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