The Fury(X) Fiji Owners Thread

JediFragger · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:08

SiDeards73 said:
I wonder if AMD pushed these out with an extremely safe clock on them knowing at those settings they were trading blows with the competition, running extremely silent and cool, pretty much answering everything people wanted, but knew once people could unlock them and overclock them they would be a monster card?

If that's almost a 3k improvement on that score for upping the mem by 100hz and the core by a similar amount, then I wonder if both can go higher with voltage unlocks and also safely? Would imagine if the answer is yes these cards will be seriously fast

I think they were pushed to the absolute limit as a lot of sites (and someone I know who has one) can only get them to 1125Mhz (massive 75Mhz overclock). Even Matt can only run all of his at 1125 (obviously the clockrate will be set to the weakest card)

Hopefully the voltage unlocking will change this, but I'm guessing a lot will get 1250/1275 max

The real question for me is what the Fury non-X clocks will be, and if their will be any throttling (as it's obviously a very hot chipset)

SiDeards73 · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:10

I bet Matt knows what's coming in terms of real performance once these cards are unlocked but due to his job cannot say

I'd be cracking under the pressure if it was me Matt lol.

Matt can you download the heavensward benchmark and do some runs at 1440p please?

Gerard · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:10

How long before we get voltage unlocking and how long before we know the safe limits is what i want to know. Gonna put Joe Macri's claim of "overclockers dream" to the test.

muziqaz · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:12

Obviously there is a reason AMD opted for 500W dissipation capable cooling system and 2x8pin power connectors? No? Or did they just feel generous and wasting money? Makri wouldn't sit there in front of everyone and blatantly lie about it being overclockers dream of 75Mhz/0mhz while nvidia cards overclock so well all around the place.

SiDeards73 · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:14

JediFragger said:
I think they were pushed to the absolute limit as a lot of sites (and someone I know who has one) can only get them to 1125Mhz (massive 75Mhz overclock). Even Matt can only run all of his at 1125 (obviously the clockrate will be set to the weakest card)

Hopefully the voltage unlocking will change this, but I'm guessing a lot will get 1250/1275 max

The real question for me is what the Fury non-X clocks will be, and if their will be any throttling (as it's obviously a very hot chipset)

Yeah I'm having a hard time picturing where the fury air cooled will sit in terms of performance. I won't be buying the air one unless it matches the speed of the FuryX which I find extremely doubtful, I didn't want a card with an AIO but have made my mind up to live with it now. Can't imagine the air ones will be clocked too high or allow much over clocking either which puts them in an awkward place as they probably won't be much better than the 390x but prob cost a lot more?

Pick · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:15

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JediFragger · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:17

muziqaz said:
Obviously there is a reason AMD opted for 500W dissipation capable cooling system and 2x8pin power connectors? No? Or did they just feel generous and wasting money? Makri wouldn't sit there in front of everyone and blatantly lie about it being overclockers dream of 75Mhz/0mhz while nvidia cards overclock so well all around the place.

Guess we'll find out in a month or so

Why AMD never got a headstart on the voltage adjustment is beyond me! Overclocking was obviously a *top* priority for them and in no way were their words about overclocking meant to entice potential buyers at all

(seeing as their 'competition' were pretty ****ing epic with it!!)

/s

muziqaz · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:21

JediFragger said:
Guess we'll find out in a month or so

Why AMD never got a headstart on the voltage adjustment is beyond me! Overclocking was obviously a *top* priority for them and in no way were their words about overclocking meant to entice potential buyers at all (seeing as their 'competition' were pretty ****ing epic with it!!)

/s

no need for sarcasms. I have patience. I will have plenty of things to do even on stock clocks when mine arrive. And I would gladly see AMD concentrate on driver performance than overclocking.

LoadsaMoney · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:21

muziqaz said:
Obviously there is a reason AMD opted for 500W dissipation capable cooling system and 2x8pin power connectors? No?

Yeah definitely a reason id say.

Gerard · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:23

Has to be something substantial, 1150mhz or so is meh, even getting 1200 on 290\x is pretty hard. The ti at 1400 or so gets around an 8-10fps bump depending on the game which is good going. Hopefully something along those lines.

SiDeards73 · 28 Jun 2015 at 23:27

Yeah after watching them say it would be "an Overclockers dream" they will look mightily stupid if is locked down, I can imagine with the headroom it has right now on that AIO that core can go much higher, not sure on the mem though as little is known about it really.

Anyhow even at stock, the card is a beauty, and 2 of them is brilliant for 1440 / 4k it seems

JediFragger · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:04

LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah definitely a reason id say.

Hot and hungry?

And 2 Fury Nano's make real sense on the FuryX2 otherwise it would just need too much power. Right?

JediFragger · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:06

SiDeards73 said:
Yeah after watching them say it would be "an Overclockers dream" they will look mightily stupid if is locked down

This is AMD remember, they do have a *slight* tendency to do things 'on the fly/hoof'

I bloody hope I'm wrong though, and it's a great big scary monster

After a bit of tweaking my G1 boosts to 1509 in games and doesn't drop, without maxing volts out etc too

Gerard · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:07

JediFragger said:
Hot and hungry?

And 2 Fury Nano's make real sense on the FuryX2 otherwise it would just need too much power. Right?

Doubt it, look at the power 2 hawaii cores gobbled up and 2 of them were cooled with a 120mm rad on the 295x2. People also thought a 7990 would be impossible due to consumption.

JediFragger · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:09

Gerard said:
Doubt it, look at the power 2 hawaii cores gobbled up and 2 of them were cooled with a 120mm rad on the 295x2. People also thought a 7990 would be impossible due to consumption.

If they really are 2 full-fat chips then kudos to AMD!! Makes you wonder though, even with 2 Fury non-X's they'd still have a bloody powerful card AND be able to charge 1k for...

heman · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:11

AMDMatt said:
Sorry to hear that mate, but make sure you get a FreeSync panel now instead. Once you've tried it, you'll understand.

Which freesync monitor do you use AMDMatt?
Liking the x4 crossfire BTW, extreme!

Gerard · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:22

JediFragger said:
If they really are 2 full-fat chips then kudos to AMD!! Makes you wonder though, even with 2 Fury non-X's they'd still have a bloody powerful card AND be able to charge 1k for...

Well the board they showed definitely looked like it had identical chip packages to the fury x, though presumably Nano looks the same. Just a matter of time before they talk about clocks and if any shader units are disabled. If they done it with the 295x2 then they should be able to do it with fury x. Technically its a less complex board layout as they don't have to have a ton of traces for gddr5. Supposedly the 295 has like 1000 traces for gddr alone.

I'd say a double thickness 120mm rad and fan assembly would be able to cope with it. Can't see them doing a 240mm rad as that would really limit the already small market for it.

Final8y · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:25

So, a couple of days ago I ordered one from the initial stock. I wanted to try out AIO watercooling anyways and I was curious.

The card's back in its box and will be returned by me in the next days, I'll get to the reasons later.

My first impressions after unboxing: "Woah, heavy!", followed by "woah, tiny!"

That rubber finished cover is milled aluminum btw and the screws are (annoyingly) TX6 Torx. Fit and finish of the whole assembly is unprecedented, it's an engineers wet dream.

As for gaming performance, I only tried out GTA5 in the short time that it was in my PC. Was playing on 2550*1440, all normal graphics settings maxed, MSAA 4x, advanced settings off (clearly told me I'd go over 4GB if I used them and I just didn't care enough to try it).
Anyways, with these settings the game would run at a perfectly locked 60fps no matter where I went or how crazy I got. No stutters, no performance drops.

And, what amused me even more, my system was dead silent during gaming. Not just "Best triple fan at low rpm" silent (which isn't that silent once you factor in the case fans), but really silent. Two BeQuiet 120mm fans in the front @ 7V, stock Intel copper heatsink+fan, Fury Radiator mounted in the back pushing air out of a Define R3. Take your Systems' noise level at idle and it'll still be louder. That silent. Definitely piqued my interest in water cooling.

So, why am I sending it back? Well... The pump. It emits a high pitch whine, exactly like this one. Not even the foamed case was able to deafen it and the trick of applying pressure on the pump wasn't helping much with my sample. Classic case of "reduce one noise source and start noticing the next one". Only that this one was very irritating. Not as much during gaming, even the background noise in GTA5 would comfortably drown it, but during regular desktop use.
It took me two hours to get very annoyed by it, apply the pressure trick and another two hours after that to pull the plug and rip it back out

Couple of other tidbits: The card was delivered in a box that had the air freight stickers still on it, delivered by Saudi Arabian Airlines from Hong Kong to Frankfurt, made me giggle.
The fan is not connected through a standard 4-Pin connector, the wires are color coded though, so replacing that isn't trivial but doable. It was also the loudest part of my system, but tolerable in noise.
I measured power consumption at the wall while I had it, never exceeded 400W for the whole system.

Honestly the pump is the only flaw I can think of, at least for gaming at 1440p. But this particular one sadly was a dealbreaker for me
Such a shame, was by far the cheapest AIO that is worthwile (ignoring 295x2).

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2437048&page=14

Gerard · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:25

Wheres that from? Ah, anandtech forum. Pump whine strikes again

Final8y · 29 Jun 2015 at 00:30

AMD needs to make sure that pump issue is fixed ASP even though it seems to be in the minority AMD needs to make sure QC is tightened up on that part.