The Gamers Guide To Mantle

Deceptor · 12 Jun 2014 at 23:56

shankly1985 said:
Hardline is a battlefield spin off not bf5 so to speak. It's just like how they did bad company series.

They shoulda called it Battlecops

Martini1991 · 12 Jun 2014 at 23:58

shankly1985 said:
Hardline is a battlefield spin off not bf5 so to speak. It's just like how they did bad company series.

I guess, but it's EA, so yeah, arguably they have the worst reputation as far as games development goes. BF4's not really fixed, and they're onto the next thing, they care little for the consumer, they destroyed Bioware too!

Orangey · 13 Jun 2014 at 00:00

Martini1991 said:
While I'm very pleased with the number of Mantle titles, I'm extremely disappointed the majority are coming from EA, because EA suck, they've ruined nigh on every developer that's gotten in bed with them, so I just can't get excite about their games.
Are we now doing a Battlefield a year?

That's the world we live in now. It's not like, say, coffee; where you can get a better product by avoiding Starbucks and going to a indy place.

PhysicsMan94 · 13 Jun 2014 at 00:26

Orangey said:
That's the world we live in now. It's not like, say, coffee; where you can get a better product by avoiding Starbucks and going to a indy place.

What exactly are you saying here? Seems like you are implying that big EA title games are better, on the whole, than indie games?

Orangey · 13 Jun 2014 at 00:54

PhysicsMan94 said:
What exactly are you saying here? Seems like you are implying that big EA title games are better, on the whole, than indie games?

Yes? But AAA in general.

PhysicsMan94 · 13 Jun 2014 at 01:00

Orangey said:
Yes? But AAA in general.

Interesting, there are many high quality indie games out there which are often better than so-called "AAA games" in my opinion. All too often AAA games are designed primarily for consoles these days and the performance, UI and overall feel of the game heavily reflect that.

Compare that to an indie game such as The Forest, for example, which is in pre-alpha mode right now but hasn't actually crashed once for me and runs very smoothly for such an early build; quite impressive for a title developed by a 4-man studio, and a game which is definitely no worse than current AAA titles and has the potential to be incredible.

Anyway, each to their own I guess, but indie titles do deserve a look-in.

Gregster · 13 Jun 2014 at 07:49

Have to be fair here and say that some of the indie games are far more playable than some of these very expensive AAA titles.

gpuerrilla · 13 Jun 2014 at 07:50

PhysicsMan94 said:
Interesting, there are many high quality indie games out there which are often better than so-called "AAA games" in my opinion. All too often AAA games are designed primarily for consoles these days and the performance, UI and overall feel of the game heavily reflect that.

Agree, some games are just quality for their playability without the need for all out graphics.

Orangey · 13 Jun 2014 at 11:50

Indie games these days = lazy "bitstyle" graphics and a pretentious title with a comma in it, marketed towards the millions of hipster teenagers on sites like reddit who never actually experienced real 8/16bit graphics and lap up more of the same endlessly the same way COD fans are accused of doing.

They don't stack up against the storylines, visuals, gameplay and scope/depth of AAA.

Not that I have a chip on my shoulder about this at all.

Martini1991 · 13 Jun 2014 at 12:26

There's some stonking Indie games, take State of Decay, bar a few flaws, it was easily one of the best zombie games going for free roaming (Imo), then when you compare it to the Walking Dead Survival Instincts which took a stellar IP, and Activision, and produced pure crap game.

PhysicsMan94 · 13 Jun 2014 at 13:03

Orangey said:
Indie games these days = lazy "bitstyle" graphics and a pretentious title with a comma in it, marketed towards the millions of hipster teenagers on sites like reddit who never actually experienced real 8/16bit graphics and lap up more of the same endlessly the same way COD fans are accused of doing.

They don't stack up against the storylines, visuals, gameplay and scope/depth of AAA.

Not that I have a chip on my shoulder about this at all.

Evidently you've not played many indie games!

LtMatt · 16 Jun 2014 at 08:24

Johan Andersson (repi) says that Star Wars Battlefront will be using Frostbite, which will have Mantle support. It's not been officially announced by AMD yet, but has appeared on slides from when Mantle launched. :cool:

Source
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1854888&postcount=1731
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1855277#post1855277

~Mike~ · 16 Jun 2014 at 08:33

Would like to know more about the 15 games in development.(even though it's EA)

LtMatt · 16 Jun 2014 at 08:35

~Mike~ said:
Would like to know more about the 15 games in development.(even though it's EA)

Here's a sneak peak on some of them. The list may not be 100% accurate though, but it did correctly guess a few of them.

Released
Battlefield 4 – (Developed by DICE/Frostbite Team)
Thief – (Developed by Eidos),
Need for Speed Rivals — (Developed by Ghost Games), no Mantle yet

Unreleased
Star Citizen – (Developed by Cloud Imperium Games, Behaviour Interactive)
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare –(Developed by PopCap Games)
Sniper Elite 3 – (Developed by Rebellion)
Dragon Age: Inquisition – (Developed by BioWare/Frostbite Team)
Havana (codename) – (Developed by Visceral Games/Frostbite Team)
Mars (codename) – (Developed by Mohawk Games/Oxide Games)
Mass Effect (untitled) – (Developed by BioWare/Frostbite Team)
Mirror’s Edge 2 – (Developed by DICE/Frostbite Team)
Star Control – (Developed by Stardock/Oxide Games)
Star Wars: Battlefront — (Developed by DICE/Frostbite Team)
Unannounced title — (Developed by Oxide Games)

http://videocardz.com/49777/list-upcoming-games-support-mantle-api

~Mike~ · 16 Jun 2014 at 08:44

Those aren't all from EA. Am I misreading the slide?

It says '15 games in development across all of EA' I took that to be EA games only as it's about Frostbite games.

LtMatt · 16 Jun 2014 at 08:46

~Mike~ said:
Those aren't all from EA. Am I misreading the slide?

It says '15 games in development across all of EA' I took that to be EA games only as it's about Frostbite games.

Yes that's just a few of them, most are unannounced. There is a lot of games coming from Rebellion games and the Asura engine which all have Mantle support. Only game announced so far though is Sniper Elite V3.

~Mike~ · 16 Jun 2014 at 08:49

So you haven't answered my original question then.

(Hardline later hopefully with the BigLad as well)

LtMatt · 16 Jun 2014 at 08:55

~Mike~ said:
So you haven't answered my original question then.

(Hardline later hopefully with the BigLad as well)

That slide and the videocardz link are separate. I just remembered seeing that Frostbite slide months ago when Johan did his Mantle presentation, but it's looking like everything on that Frostbite slide will become a Mantle title.

Will be on at 4pm for a few rounds.

LtMatt · 23 Jun 2014 at 12:29

Sniper Elite V3 and Plants Vs Zombies to release this week, both Mantle titles. Spoke to Rebellion CEO on twitter, Mantle support will be added after release as it is still undergoing final testing. Not been able to get an answer from the Popcap devs regarding Plants Vs Zombies yet.

shankly1985 · 23 Jun 2014 at 13:19

Am hoping new tomb raider will support mantle. Also very interested on what crytek come up with.
Am not sure about sniper elite or pvz. If can get cheap I'll probably pick them up.