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The GPU war is over.

The 4870 doesn't appear to be any faster from that tech report link you posted (cannot check tom's due to annoying as that filled the whole screen that you cannot dismiss).

techreport has the 4870 edging out the 260 and trading blows with the 280 though ultimately just losing out to it.

I don't really recall much about the 280 but had a GTX260 SLI setup at the time and lived with people who owned 4800 series cards and that about lines up with my memories. I seem to recall doing some testing at work with those 2 setups (GTX260 and 4850/4870) but I'm drawing a complete blank mentally on any details right now.
 
I bet this year alone you been Nvidia driver issue free yeah lol

Completely driver issues free here as well, even with all the drivers released daily which I get as soon as Geforce Experience makes me aware they are released.

Of course I never buy a game on release day, wait until they iron out the issues, fix the bugs, drops in price, then buy it for at least 50% discount :)
 
My recent experience has been with a GTX960 and GTX1080 and drivers seem OK,and my mate with an RX480 has been generally OK(although we don't run these on TVs). I found the best way to avoid any driver issues over the last 13 to 14 years is to simply be a driver revision or two behind,and I tend to generally wait a bit until playing a new game too.
 
The moment AMD took over,they seemed to lost that spark of marketing,etc that ATI had and the removing of the ATI brand lost them so much PR as ATI was a well known brand.

That was their biggest mistake IMO, yes ATi was seen as the #2 brand at the time, but that was because they had been instrumental in killing off 3DFX, S3, SIS, Matrox, PowerVR, etc, etc and it had come down to just them and Nvidia.

AMD replaced a brand [ATi] that had been on top at numerous points and had a long history just as impressive as Nvidia's, and overwrote it with their own brand, one with a history of playing second fiddle to Intel for it's entire existence (hell 20 years ago they weren't even #2).

Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid.
 
I have never perceived one brand more premium than the other. Whoever provides more bang for my buck gets my money. Simple :D

I have had ATI/AMD cards from over 10 years ago, don't recall having many issues. Only time I remember it was an issue was with multi gpu, but that is something completely different.
 
That was their biggest mistake IMO, yes ATi was seen as the #2 brand at the time, but that was because they had been instrumental in killing off 3DFX, S3, SIS, Matrox, PowerVR, etc, etc and it had come down to just them and Nvidia.

AMD replaced a brand [ATi] that had been on top at numerous points and had a long history just as impressive as Nvidia's, and overwrote it with their own brand, one with a history of playing second fiddle to Intel for it's entire existence (hell 20 years ago they weren't even #2).

Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid.

What really killed 3Dfx was they weren't looking where the road was going - thought they could just keep doing what they'd always been doing while ATI and nVidia understood the direction graphics was going.
 
That was their biggest mistake IMO, yes ATi was seen as the #2 brand at the time, but that was because they had been instrumental in killing off 3DFX, S3, SIS, Matrox, PowerVR, etc, etc and it had come down to just them and Nvidia.

AMD replaced a brand [ATi] that had been on top at numerous points and had a long history just as impressive as Nvidia's, and overwrote it with their own brand, one with a history of playing second fiddle to Intel for it's entire existence (hell 20 years ago they weren't even #2).

Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid.

Matrox is still about, they just deal with professional graphics as they did from the start, they just moved out of the home PC type cards that they tried for a few years.
 
G400 Max was a great card. Great RAMDAC and superb picture quality.

100% agree they still have in their professional range cards that they still make.

When the G400 came out it was all VGA analogue type connections to the monitor and they were the best for the image quality then and ATI was a close second, Nvidia only had good 3D visual quality, the 2D was terrible, where Matrox and ATI their 2D quality was miles ahead of Nvidia.
 
Matrox is still about, they just deal with professional graphics as they did from the start, they just moved out of the home PC type cards that they tried for a few years.

That was quite a bit due to losing out in the gaming/desktop space though with ATI and nVidia largely having more attractive offerings - they also did a bit of an ATI/AMD investing significant resources into pushing headline technologies before it was really feasible i.e. they dropped a ton on bump mapping long before it was realistically possible to use it in games - I think other than expendable it was quite awhile before it was really used.
 
definately more issues for nvidia this year with drivers. ive had them myself. most of the year i had to stay on a 2-5 month old driver because i couldnt even hold the stock clocks.
 
techreport has the 4870 edging out the 260 and trading blows with the 280 though ultimately just losing out to it.

I don't really recall much about the 280 but had a GTX260 SLI setup at the time and lived with people who owned 4800 series cards and that about lines up with my memories. I seem to recall doing some testing at work with those 2 setups (GTX260 and 4850/4870) but I'm drawing a complete blank mentally on any details right now.

Yeah, it's imporant to be really careful with "conclusions" as their numbers often don't match up with what they say.

The 4870 beat the 280 in their review, they just didn't report it as such. Just looking at the numbers says it. ;)
 
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Last AMD card I owned was a 6870 then I sold up and came back to PC gaming a few years later, ended up with a cheap 960 then went 980 and more recently a GTX 1080. Sadly Nvidia are dominating as far as raw performance is concerned and GSYNC whilst pricy is rather incredible.
 
Please don't take comments from D.P's to heart, I saw from jayzwoCent recent video that just one trollish comments like that can really affect people's self-esteem even if it's just one amongst dozens of positive feedback posts.

Interestingly, I recently talked to a large tech and gamer YouTuber (not Jayz) who had become increasingly worried about his tech videos being accurate, presumably for this reason. Talking about a guy waaaay bigger than me.

It used to bother me a bit but now I'm pretty much past it. I know I really shouldn't bother at all. ;)

I also feel guilty now you posting on OCUK and I have to come clean.

I'm an ignorant Englishman and I make fun of your accent as I watch your videos. Sorry. :(

We all know that secretly, you wish you had my accent. :D
 
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