The Huw Edwards situation

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So far it looks like the only allegation of any legal wrongdoing with any substance is the potential covid lockdown breach.

An older man flirting with older teenagers whilst distasteful to most people, is entirely legal, so a lot of fuss being made over not a lot. Buying pictures from someone 18+ - again distasteful maybe but not illegal.

Sending threats - maybe strays into legal realms depending on what sort of threats they were.

Regardless, his career is almost certainly over because it's only the court of public opinion that will matter on that front anyway.
 
Wonder if anyone else will come forwards:

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BBC 'sex claims star broke lockdown' to meet young stranger from dating site

THE BBC star suspended over sex claims has been accused of breaking the law by defying the third national lockdown to meet a young stranger from a dating site. The TV personality allegedly ignored …
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The Sun has seen messages which suggest that — as well as visiting the 23-year-old’s home — the star sent cash, and asked for a picture. He was sent a semi-naked photograph.

The person, who the presenter met, told The Sun last night: “The BBC were briefing the nation on the rules — when their star who was part of the institution was quite happy to break them.”

The BBC and the presenter have been approached for comment. The Sun will be handing its evidence over to the BBC’s investigation.

In an interview, the youngster told how the star travelled across London to another county to meet them at their flat in February 2021.

They said they first met the presenter in November 2020 on a dating site.
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If he or she has a dating app profile and was allegedly happy to pay people for their time even during Covid (and apparently received a pic here too) then is it a reasonable assumption that there may well have been others too?

Pretty disgraceful given the date, the second lockdown came into force on the 5th of November and according to this chart from a BBC article we were well into the up slope of this second peak at the time:

edit - it seems the match was in November (which the Sun describes as "met" above) but the actual in-person meeting was in Feb so on the downslope of the second peak but also during lockdown measures (3rd lockdown started on the 6th of Jan 2021 and ended on the 16th of April).

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dowie said:
It doesn't, they're in the wrong order because I'd resized them (as on the first upload they were massive) then clicked the wrong one first in imgur... a mod can check and verify that (previous edit will have the original links) if you're really fussed about it.

You seem to have given up trying to downplay it though... are you starting to see that it's a bit farcical to just dismiss as you did?
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So you fully understand through basic reading that months later when the account declared they were in their final year of school, he was slightly more than non communicative and not interested.

You should be able to understand that the labels at the top which say 17 years old were added by The Sun and not actually visible to the presenter.

If you didn't pick up this false awareness of age from The Sun then you came to it from your own conclusion out of nowhere which is weird.
 
Kenai said:
So far it looks like the only allegation of any legal wrongdoing with any substance is the potential covid lockdown breach.

An older man flirting with older teenagers whilst distasteful to most people, is entirely legal, so a lot of fuss being made over not a lot. Buying pictures from someone 18+ - again distasteful maybe but not illegal.

Sending threats - maybe strays into legal realms depending on what sort of threats they were.

Regardless, his career is almost certainly over because it's only the court of public opinion that will matter on that front anyway.
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Who ever is advising them is doing a really bad job.

They should have deployed the 'unwise, but not illegal' defence on Monday, blamed their mental health, promised to go into rehab and apologised to their family and work colleagues.
 
Hotwired said:
You should be able to understand that the labels at the top which say 17 years old were added by The Sun and not actually visible to the presenter.
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Eh? What argument are you even referring to there? Where have labels been mentioned here?

Hotwired said:
If you didn't pick up this false awareness of age from The Sun then you came to it from your own conclusion out of nowhere which is weird.
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You seem to be making up arguments to argue against here as you don't really have anything.
 
dowie said:
Love hearts and kisses to a 17 year old who is still at school... you're really trying to downplay that as if it's nothing?
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dowie said:
Eh? What argument are you even referring to there? Where have labels been mentioned here?

You seem to be making up arguments to argue against here as you don't really have anything.
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You're making up deflections as you go.

That was you stating that he was flirting with a 17 year old yet there is no indication of being 17 years old until months after sending love hearts and kisses.
 
Hotwired said:
That was you stating that he was flirting with a 17 year old
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He was (allegedly), what exactly are you trying to dispute there?

Hotwired said:
yet there is no indication of being 17 years old until months after sending love hearts and kisses.
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That doesn't negate that he's 17!

Also, you don't know that there was no indication of being 17 years old before that unless you're aware of the contents of his Instagram?

I mean presumably a picture of his face would be on there for a start which gives at least some indication of age. Other pics may well offer additional context.
 
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MadMossy said:
A straight man wouldn't but a gay man probably would, and no I'm not insinuating anything from that, it's no different than some women who refer to people as sweaty or hun all the time. Just a term of endearment .
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A complete aside but some people are quite um different in that respect - I know of a guy in his 70s who refers to everyone, male or female, old or young, as "my lovely" except very pointedly those he doesn't like (as if it is kind of a snub not to).
 
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BBC lawyers must be working overtime to try and avoid them being implicated in any defamation case, along with the Sun - Cliff Richard again.

Jeremy Vine & co playing the role of inciteful Trump in the witch Hunt.
 
dowie said:
He was (allegedly), what exactly are you trying to dispute there?



That doesn't negate that he's 17!

Also, you don't know that there was no indication of being 17 years old before that unless you're aware of the contents of his Instagram?

I mean presumably a picture of his face would be on there for a start which gives at least some indication of age. Other pics may well offer additional context.
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A picture doesn't necessarily say anything about their age, I mean I looked old enough to get served in a pub at 13, I got served wine on a flight to Florida at 15 (where the legal age for drinking is 21), it's like if your out at a club or pub and start chatting to a girl, your going to assume she is at least 18 because of the venue. Lets face it if men are forced to ask for ID before talking to someone, well they just aren't going to talk to anyone.
 
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He was (allegedly).

That doesn't negate that he's 17!

Also, you don't know that there was no indication of being 17 years old before that unless you're aware of the contents of his Instagram?

I mean presumably a picture of his face would be on there for a start which gives at least some indication of age. Other pics may well offer additional context.
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Oh now you're calling on evidence that you don't have and wasn't shown by the major accuser, The Sun.

I'll stick with my enormous leap of faith that you blindly copied what The Sun told you since it gives many prompts to manipulate the reader to assume the age of 17 was known but when you look at the presented screenshot evidence and even the editorialised accompanying text, it wasn't said until months later.

And that sums up why I said to you in post #682 that you have been suckered into seeing deviancy in an edited Instagram screenshot.

Proper crazy if The Sun forgot to add the evidence that he knew the account was run by a 17 year old when they're begging for accusers to appear.
 
MadMossy said:
A picture doesn't necessarily say anything about their age, I mean I looked old enough to get served in a pub at 13, I got served wine on a flight to Florida at 15 (where the legal age for drinking is 21), it's like if your out at a club or pub and start chatting to a girl, your going to assume she is at least 18 because of the venue. Lets face it if men are forced to ask for ID before talking to someone, well they just aren't going to talk to anyone.
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You've just completely contradicted yourself there. Say you're going to assume someone at a club or pub is 18 yet giving an example of yourself getting served at 13!
 
It's a good distraction; whilst The Sun keep pedalling this, it keeps the public away from the Osbourne email(s) and BoJo failing to had over his phone/WhatsApp messages.

Hotwired said:
Are we really having a grown man paying rent boys (who are adults) for adult services as front page news in 2023.
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That's a typical Wednesday in the Tory and Labour cabinets :cry:
 
MadMossy said:
A picture doesn't necessarily say anything about their age, I mean I looked old enough to get served in a pub at 13, I got served wine on a flight to Florida at 15 (where the legal age for drinking is 21), it's like if your out at a club or pub and start chatting to a girl, your going to assume she is at least 18 because of the venue. Lets face it if men are forced to ask for ID before talking to someone, well they just aren't goinine for g to talk to anyone.
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If an 18 year old picks up a girl in a club, sleeps with them and then finds out they are 15 they will still get done for statutory rape, the 'law' by in large doesn't care about circumstances
 
Good summary of all the allegations here:

1. Teenager ‘used presenter’s cash to fund drug addiction’​

On Saturday, July 8, The Sun published an anonymous interview with the mother and stepfather of an apparently vulnerable youth who had been exchanging messages with an unnamed BBC presenter.
The parents alleged that their child was 17 when the relationship started and had been sent £35,000 over a three-year period for explicit images.
But on Monday, a lawyer acting on the young person’s behalf denied these claims.

2. Young person ‘felt threatened by abusive messages’​

A second individual, understood to be in their 20s, claimed to BBC News that they had made contact with the unnamed presenter through a dating app.
At the time they did not know who he was.
The young person said they felt pressured to meet up with him but never did.
When they hinted online that they had contact with the presenter and may name him he is claimed to have sent them abusive messages.
The BBC claimed it had “seen and verified” the chat.

3. Presenter ‘broke lockdown rules to meet youth’​

A third young person came forward to claim in The Sun that the BBC presenter allegedly broke lockdown rules to meet with him.
It was claimed that a 23-year-old travelled across London to another county to meet them at their flat in February 2021 after first meeting on a dating site the previous year.
It was also claimed that on the day of the alleged hour-long meeting, during which the unnamed presenter and the 23-year-old “just chatted”, the presenter said a gift of £250 to a PayPal account.
The Sun claims two other payments of £200 and £250 were made afterwards.

4. Presenter ‘sent creepy Instagram messages’ to teenager​

A fourth young person claims they were contacted on Instagram by the unnamed presenter, who sent love hearts and ‘x’ kisses, it is claimed in The Sun.
The unnamed fourth person - who said they were 17 at the time - branded the messages “creepy”, “looking back now”.
They said they were “taken aback” by the sending of a love heart emoji.


www.telegraph.co.uk

The four young people's allegations about the BBC presenter

An unnamed presenter has been accused of sending cash to a vulnerable teenager in exchange for explicit pictures
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MadMossy said:
The key difference is I wouldn't be blaming the pub afterwards, it was entirely my doing and choice.
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But pubs and clubs should be checking ID. However yes, it's down to the individual.

My cousin is a prem footballer and I always remember him telling me at the start of his career they were given a lecture about conducting themselves in public, especially on nights out. One of the key points was that if you have even the slightest doubt about her age - DONT GO NEAR HER!
 
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