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Probably standard protocol these days.
If you had multiple allegations like this thrown at you at work, you'd probably be put on some kind of leave until HR investigated.
The Huw Edwards situation
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Probably standard protocol these days.
If you had multiple allegations like this thrown at you at work, you'd probably be put on some kind of leave until HR investigated.
I think some people are assuming that the police investigated everything when actually it was just the issue of potential kiddie porn.
The covid allegation seems to have been brushed under the carpet..
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Who knows how deep it goes. Everyone thought Saville was innocent too. How could he possibly do anything wrong, he’s loved by all! Look how that turned out.
Sadly I’ve seen in our workplace how the police ‘investigate’ and if the victim won’t speak out (who was a minor then, but now over 18) then other than internally, nothing happens.
That’s not to say anything has happened, but nor should it all be shut down because ‘reasons’.
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*laughs*What scandals?? There's even a even a dedicated Wikipedia page lol.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_controversies
Ah yes, "scandals" that include things like a word used in a news report, or the coverage for a funeral, or the behaviour of a presenter BEFORE they were hired by the BBC (the BBC fired the presenter)...and some years there being 2 or 3, and others none.
Given the BBC has tens of thousands of staff, and puts out hundreds of hours of content a day, much of it live if those are the level of the scandals they're doing pretty well, especially as a lot of those "scadals" are basically because they've upset a politician or have made a choice where whatever they did would have had people upset and a "scandal" (the coverage of Prince Phillips funeral for example, if they hadn't covered it as a major thing they'd have been called "anti royalty" and "it's a scandal that they didn't cover it enough", as it was it was a "scandal" because they covered it too much).
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i think you are missremembering. For a long time before it all hit the fan many many people thought he was a shady character and indeed those who worked with him it was common knowledge.
I will stick my neck out and say it now....... no matter what it is he (Edwards) is *actually* guilty of, i would wager a not insignificant sum of money that it is a long way from the likes of Saville / Glitter / harris / Hall etc (which isnt to excuse it either)
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It is apathy, you're correct but you got to the wrong conclusion. Why should I care about what, from current information, happens in private between 2 consenting adults if it isn't illegal? If it isn't illegal there's nothing for "these people to get away with".
Now if your argument is a moral one, well that gets a lot more tricky as by who's moral rule do we measure?
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Yup
Even in much lower profile jobs if there is any major allegation, or even just middling ones it is often absolutely standard to suspend the person whilst it's investigated, and that is not just at the BBC.
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The covid allegation seems to have been brushed under the carpet..
But do you really care about people breaking Covid restrictions?
And:
"I'd imagine that the majority of people in this country have broken lock down rules one way or the other at some point."
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even though Sky isn't murdoch the BBC is their competitor so that makes them bedfellows with sun - in the war against Huw. - watch the newsnight bolton/liddle diatribe.
sky news oftens seems regurgitation of syndicated news bites with little/no value added
- their/sky dedicate news channel seems to provide more regular repetition of the headlines than bbc news though.
his wifes update unfortunately synchronized with police update - suggested she was on the hedge, probably like bbc who didn't know which way it would go,
so the bbc scramble for more evidence in the interim and it's publication did seem double faced to sanitize themselves if police had said otherwise.
sky news oftens seems regurgitation of syndicated news bites with little/no value added
- their/sky dedicate news channel seems to provide more regular repetition of the headlines than bbc news though.
his wifes update unfortunately synchronized with police update - suggested she was on the hedge, probably like bbc who didn't know which way it would go,
so the bbc scramble for more evidence in the interim and it's publication did seem double faced to sanitize themselves if police had said otherwise.
So you are saying an abusive relationship is ok as long as there is no criminality?
So you are saying that a person can abuse a position of power as long as there is no criminality?
The law should be applied fairly and consistently - why has Huw been let off when Boris got a fixed penalty for what was a much less serious breach.
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When i was at uni one of my flat mates in my 1st year, a decent bloke came over from ..................... i think it was pakistan but not 100%. he had never been to the uk before but he said when he arrived he could only imagine that the way women reacted in the uk, gave him the same instant reaction as how i would feel if i went somewhere and there were naked people having orgies in the street and what not.
morality is different to different people and that is why we should rely on the law, not personal views.
We had someone in this very thread "correcting" someone who used the term sex worker and said "no you mean Whore!" now to me that is incredibly offensive and if i were a mod i would be throwing the ban hammer for that....... but that is me and my sense of what is acceptable or not.... and if that is within the rules of this forum then i guess that is the law here.
Turn a blind eye to what? So far no evidence of illegal activity has been uncovered despite two separate police forces looking for it. If new evidence comes to light then that may change.
I would worry if you were on a jury.
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I think sending threatening and abusive messages is an awful thing to do!
And if he is allegedly making some of his female colleagues uncomfortable, then that too is unacceptable behaviour.
So he can do what he likes as long as it doesn't meet the threshold to be considered a crime?
To protect the BBC image and to, quite correctly, understand whether their own standards expected of their employees have been breached.
On the one hand you say it's no wonder that the BBC are willing to protect their stars and on the other hand you point out the BBC are investigating allegations.
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the 1st point maybe... .but then so is threatening to out someone for possibly kinky stuff done on a dating site between 2 consenting adults.... IF someone did that to me i would be pretty mad too..... I wonder if those ex girlfriends who find pictures of themselves spread on social media dont give a bit of an aggressive response back to the people who shared the images?
the 2nd point absolutely...... but that has only come to light AFTER the sun article and even now is done in anonymity and they have not reported to the police. .....
I am not saying this 2nd part isnt true..... but that rather than making allegations to the public space they should be made to the authorities - or at least to the BBC HR who can then fire him for misconduct but again not a world news exclusive getting more airtime than kids and others drowning at sea for instance.
In the 2nd case it is the BBC at fault for airing their dirty laundry in public before their investigation is concluded, but i guess they feel compelled to now.... but i think they are wrong as well.
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