The Huw Edwards situation

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n111ck said:
Not aware of the details and dont really see the parallels with this other than it being another BBC scandal - unless of course there was a helicopter flying over Huw's house??
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i think the parallel is that it was another massive witch hunt against someone with very damaging claims made before it was fully investigated.

in that case it was shown to be utter nonsense, in the current case it seems there may be some truth in it but equally a bunch of stuff in there which may not be proven either - but it was still broadcast before the truth was (or has) been fully established.
 
bigmike20vt said:
i think the parallel is that it was another massive witch hunt against someone with very damaging claims made before it was fully investigated.

in that case it was shown to be utter nonsense, in the current case it seems there may be some truth in it but equally a bunch of stuff in there which may not be proven either - but it was still broadcast before the truth was (or has) been fully established.
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Well in Cliff's care they were over zealous and in Huw's case they were under zealous..
 
n111ck said:
Still no denials forthcoming..

Jon Sopel - Huw Edwards 'not overly impressed with BBC coverage'​

Huw Edwards was “furious” with the coverage of allegations published by the Sun and is not “overly impressed” by the BBC’s reporting as well, his former colleague Jon Sopel has said.
Sopel, who worked with Edwards for decades before leaving the corporation last year, told ITV’s Good Morning Britain he had been in touch with Edwards before he went to hospital.
He said: “We’ve had contact, obviously not since he’s been hospitalised.
“He was very angry, I think felt very let down by what happened in the Sun, furious with their coverage, not overly impressed with the BBC’s coverage either.
“I’m sure anyone who knows him is just wishing him well.
Sopel said coverage of the allegations “got ugly”, adding: “I think it became a feeding frenzy. I think it was a competition to see who could go further the fastest.”
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I lost respect when Sopel become so impartial that he had to leave the bbc. Now he seems to be a regular on the other ex bbc podcast maitlis both swearing.
 
bigmike20vt said:
i think the parallel is that it was another massive witch hunt against someone with very damaging claims made before it was fully investigated.

in that case it was shown to be utter nonsense, in the current case it seems there may be some truth in it but equally a bunch of stuff in there which may not be proven either - but it was still broadcast before the truth was (or has) been fully established.
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What can the BBC do seriously? They had to suspend him while it was investigated. There is no way of hiding it when you are in the public eye. Any other organization would have done the same.
 
n111ck said:
For the Huw fans - do you seriously think he is going to be reinstated by THE BBC (or paid off) and sue The Sun for millions and win?
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His career is over, that's for sure. Once there's been a media storm like this then, rightly or wrongly, there's no coming back.

It's doubtful he'd want to return, anyhow.
 
FoxEye said:
His career is over, that's for sure. Once there's been a media storm like this then, rightly or wrongly, there's no coming back.

It's doubtful he'd want to return, anyhow.
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But is he in line for a major payout? Probably not..



Anyway hopefully he gets the help he needs to change his ways and any victims get justice.
 
adam cool dude said:
What can the BBC do seriously? They had to suspend him while it was investigated. There is no way of hiding it when you are in the public eye. Any other organization would have done the same.
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most of the blame is with the sun for sure (and Edwards of course IF he is guilty of crimes)...... but equally they could (should imo) have said yes allegations have been made against a member of staff who is currently suspended whilst it is investigated... a full statement will be made once this has been concluded but in the mean time we have no other statement to make and we would appreciate you didnt speculate or make libellous or slanderous claims against our staff.

I get that they probably feel pressured to say more but at the end of the day their duty of care is primarily to their member of staff who is STILL innocent until any internal enquiry is concluded and shows his guilt.

also - and i am not saying this is the case - but regarding the people who felt uncomfortable with some of the texts he sent with kisses.

it could feasibly be that (and not saying it is the case) he is like that with everyone and means nothing by it.... and that his only crime could be being a bit of a dinosaur who needs to go on sensitivity training.

being made to feel uncomfortable by someone doesnt instantly mean the person who made you feel uncomfortable is automatically wrong.... people can somethings give - or take the wrong impression from short messages.

people can sometimes be over sensitive snow flakes.

and the truth could be half and half, he may have crossed the line and need a disciplinary but equally not need to have been fired or been dragged through the press... there ARE shades of gray... which is why it needs to be investigated... internally if its disciplinary issues or by the police if it is a legal issue

but this is all moot now, he cant carry on as a news reader after this regardless.
 
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bigmike20vt said:
most of the blame is with the sun for sure (and Edwards of course IF he is guilty of crimes)...... but equally they could (should imo) have said yes allegations have been made against a member of staff who is currently suspended whilst it is investigated... a full statement will be made once this has been concluded but in the mean time we have no other statement to make and we would appreciate you didnt speculate or make libellous or slanderous claims against our staff.

I get that they probably feel pressured to say more but at the end of the day their duty of care is primarily to their member of staff who is STILL innocent until any internal enquiry is concluded and shows his guilt.
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Iirc they knew since may and investigated before suspension which was at least two months ago so I would hope their HR team did a thorough job and there had to have been some meat in it.

No doubt someone in HR leaked it anyway. Thats how all the gossip came out in my old workplace.
 
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n111ck said:
There are some seriously disturbing views in this thread - criminality is ok as long as you dont get caught or you can keep your victim quiet.
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Sorry, what has Huw done that makes him a criminal? When was the trial and when was he convicted? as I must have blinked and missed it.

I’m a heathen of the highest order then as I’m actually quite proud to defend to Huw* as I abide by the innocent until proven guilty and so far nothing has come out that is criminal nevermind him actually been convicted of anything.

But sure lets all froth at the mouth and destroy a man and his career because the court of popular opinion this news cycle says we should.

*This still somewhat still a developing story so this is prefixed with unless evidence comes to light he has done something illegal.
 
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It's fairly clear a lot of papers have been out to destroy the BBC for years. Read the Daily Mail and every other day there is something about how woke it is, how it needs to be disbanded, how it's a remainer plot. The Sun is as bad if not worse and clearly has taken this opportuntity to go to another level. They don't care about who they hurt, or what they write - they are in a fight for survival. Paper subscriptions and numbers are falling through the floor so they are becoming even more nasty and extreme. It's a sign of the times, and just continues the Murdoch, Trump, Boris, Brexit, Fox news, GB news merrygo round. Something has to change with standards in modern life, but it seems there are still enough people obsessed with hearing about celebreties private lives, made up nonsense and hanging on every word of charlatans that it won't happen any time soon.

We have no idea at this point if there is any truth to any of it. All we know is the Police have said nothing illegal happened. Whether something some consider immoral or against BBC employee contracts / expectations happened... well that's for the BBC to find out, just like any employer would.

One thing is for sure, papers and certain press don't believe in innocent until proven guilty, but then half the public these days don't seem to either.

Lets destroy someone's life based on one newspapers rantings. Utterly depressing. And even more depressing, it's not the first time and won't be the last time. Would be nice if we actually had a press regulator.. oh wait. Would be nice if we had a working water regulator.. oh wait, would be nice if we had a working energy regulator.. oh wait.
 
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redeye said:
It's fairly clear a lot of papers have been out to destroy the BBC for years. Read the Daily Mail and every other day there is something about how woke it is, how it needs to be disbanded, how it's a remainer plot. The Sun is as bad if not worse and clearly has taken this opportuntity to go to another level. They don't care about who they hurt, or what they write - they are in a fight for survival. Paper subscriptions and numbers are falling through the floor so they are becoming even more nasty and extreme. It's a sign of the times, and just continues the Murdoch, Trump, Boris, Brexit, Fox news, GB news merrygo round. Something has to change with standards in modern life, but it seems there are still enough people obsessed with hearing about celebreties private lives, made up nonsense and hanging on every word of charlatans that it won't happen any time soon.

We have no idea at this point if there is any truth to any of it. All we know is the Police have said nothing illegal happened. Whether something some consider immoral or against BBC employee contracts / expectations happened... well that's for the BBC to find out, just like any employer would.

One thing is for sure, papers and certain press don't believe in innocent until proven guilty, but then half the public these days don't seem to either.

Lets destroy someone's life based on one newspapers rantings. Utterly depressing.
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Does any country have a more toxic press than the UK? (Apart from the US...)
 
n111ck said:
He’s just another perv that abused his position - he doesn’t deserve anyone tying themselves in knots to defend him.
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n111ck said:
If random people on here are willing to excuse and turn a blind then its no wonder there are those in THE BBC that are willing to protects their 'stars'.. sickening.
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People arent really defending him what they are doing is trying to counter the evangelical moral high ground some of you seem to have taken over a 'gay' BBC employee.

Liking young men and the BBC seems to be the moral issues I get from a lot of you.
 
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n111ck said:
But is he in line for a major payout? Probably not..



Anyway hopefully he gets the help he needs to change his ways and any victims get justice.
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