The Huw Edwards situation

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The mum speaks.. what was Huw thinking..

youngster? at this point the Sun are out and out lying.. constantly saying child.

reading that it sounds like he has been diddling 13 year olds .......
 
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Well isn't that asking us to infer from things that did happen, that a bunch of worse stuff might also have happened?

Nope, the alleged DM's to the 17-year-old schoolboy were also posted earlier. Why would you assign greater weight to the ones posted above?

The arguments I've made in the previous few posts are about current allegations already made not worse stuff that might have happened.

The evidence as presented is a whole bunch of nothing, really.

Again it was there for context, he allegedly seems to like flirting with people on social media.

To be clear, flirting with people on social media isn't in itself bad and wasn't presented as such but... if it involves minors (a 17 year old) or junior employees in the organisation you work for and you're a senior employee then it would be rather reckless. Do you agree?
 
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Nope, the alleged DM's to the 17-year-old schoolboy were also posted earlier. Why would you assign greater weight to the ones posted above?



Again it was there for context, he allegedly seems to like flirting with people on social media.

To be clear, flirting with people on social media isn't in itself bad and wasn't presented as such but... if it involves minors (a 17 year old) or junior employees in the organisation you work for and you're a senior employee then it would be rather reckless. Do you agree?
In as much as we're all expected to walk on eggshells, these days. For the sake of a few. Those who tend towards moral panic and faux outrage, over every little thing.

I was once reprimanded for attempting to join in on an office conversation. I was in the same room as some more senior (female) employees, and nobody had briefed me that I wasn't allowed to talk to them. I tried to make polite conversation and they blanked me, completely. I later got taken aside by the manager to make it abundently clear I was to remain silent and not try to speak to them, as I was "just a temp" and not a member of the team. And no, it wasn't anything sensitive. Just office banter.

Why is that relevant? Well, I know from personal experience that some people will be offended by anything. Including the office junior being so audacious as to try to make conversation with another member of staff.

Some of it is 100% petty and completely pathetic.

e: I think office environments tend to attract more than their fair share of drama queens. Put it that way.
 
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No, and it wasn't presented as such, try to read again, it's just examples of him sending flirty DMs.



No one said those two were cause for concern. Would it be cause for concern at your work if a senior person was allegedly flirting unsolicited with a junior employee and caused them to feel uncomfortable? Or was allegedly flirting with a 17-year-old?
in which case rather than letting us see these vague ones (in need of a quick "dial it back a bit from HR perhaps) and you making the argument that there are worse ones we haven't seen.

let's see the bad ones.

this is something the media do a lot and it's wrong. it happened with BoJo and whilst I can't stand the man the way his shinanegans were released was another example

rather than releasing what he had done (like a news story) the drip fed it it slowly to drag it out as long as they could more like a bloody soap opera

until there is proof there is worse out there I think the only fair and just assumption is what we see is what there is
perhaps he is a dinosaur..... a real life "carry on" character. or a wanna be Austin powers.. but nothing I have seen so far warrants the hateful things said about him
 
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In as much as we're all expected to walk on eggshells, these days. For the sake of a few. Those who tend towards moral panic and faux outrage, over every little thing.
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Some of it is 100% petty and completely pathetic.

e: I think office environments tend to attract more than their fair share of drama queens. Put it that way.

A 61-year-old man allegedly DMing a 17 year old is just moral panic? Ditto to allegedly flirty, unsolicited DMs to a junior employee he'd not even met?

You're seemingly ignoring context, ignoring the accusations and have given a vague reply related to some personal views/issues you have with office politics in general?

in which case rather than letting us see these vague ones (in need of a quick "dial it back a bit from HR perhaps) and you making the argument that there are worse ones we haven't seen.

What argument are you talking about? The alleged exchange with the 17 year old was already posted, the BBC employee hasn't posted their alleged exchange.

You appear to be attributing an argument to me that hasn't been made, just quote the argument in future and ask directly as it will save any confusion.
 
A 61-year-old man allegedly DMing a 17 year old is just moral panic? Ditto to allegedly flirty, unsolicited DMs to a junior employee he'd not even met?

You're seemingly ignoring context, ignoring the accusations and have given a vague reply related to some personal views/issues you have with office politics in general?



What argument are you talking about? The alleged exchange with the 17 year old was already posted, the BBC employee hasn't posted their alleged exchange.

You appear to be attributing an argument to me that hasn't been made, just quote the argument in future and ask directly as it will save any confusion.
Show me the content of the DMs and we'll discuss it. Along with the exact age of the recipients at the time.

Given the police have already said there's nothing doing here, I doubt they can be as bad as you think.
 
Other people have come forwards about DM sliding (we've already had the allegations from the 17 year old schoolboy and the junior BBC employee)... note these people are not claiming to be under age, one of them is apparently 35 and joked on social media that Huw tried to groom him until he found out.

Nothing wrong legally per se with flirting on social media, could come accorss creepy when unsolicited and legally-dodgy if pursued when you're not necessarily aware of the age of the person (as in the case of the 17-year-old allegation) or HR-dodgy if you do it to people you work with:

This alleged incident seems super tame:
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This alleged incident is obviously flirty:
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That sort of thing would appear to be quite reckless and *if* that was a regular thing he did then it's unsurprising to have seen 3 more people come forwards after the initial story + then the BBC employees and then these appear on social media too.

omg what a dirty old man, how can he message such filth
 
Show me the content of the DMs and we'll discuss it. Along with the exact age of the recipients at the time.

Given the police have already said there's nothing doing here, I doubt they can be as bad as you think.

The police didn't investigate it, you now confusing it with the first allegation re: a completely different person. You guys are commenting on stories you don't seem to have even familiarised yourself with the basics of. Do you think it's normal to seemingly/allegedly have a habit of doing this to the point where you (quite possibly unknowingly) end up flirting with a minor?

 
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The police didn't investigate it, you now confusing it with the first allegation re: a completely different person. You guys are commenting on stories you don't seem to have even familiarised yourself with the basics of. Do you think it's normal to seemingly/allegedly have a habit of doing this to the point where you (quite possibly unknowingly) end up flirting with a minor?

So... "love hearts and kisses" in text-based conversations.

Wow, this is outrageous, isn't it. I'm not sure how I'll sleep tonight with this weighing on my mind.
 
So... "love hearts and kisses" in text-based conversations.

Wow, this is outrageous, isn't it. I'm not sure how I'll sleep tonight with this weighing on my mind.

Yeah, you're just being disingenuous now... no one said sending love hearts was outrageous, it's the alleged flirting with a 17-year-old that is iffy.

If you can't see why that and the other allegation re: another 17-year-old and the allegation re: a junior employee are rather more serious than just the flirty behavior or paying for lewd pictures then that's on you tbh...
 
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Yeah, you're just being disingenuous now... no one said sending love hearts was outrageous, it's the alleged flirting with a 17-year-old that is iffy.
Clearly iffy enough - to some people - to lose your job at the BBC, yes.

Which is not to say that I find it iffy. But enough people do, yes. These days, the threshold for losing your job is comically low. That's all there is to say, really.
 
I mean c’mon. Is that message even considered flirting?

he didn’t mention he’d seen some big bananas on th fruit aisle, nor did he ask if they liked big sausages or chipolattas

in all seriousness I get emails with All kinds of emojis or signed off with and ‘x’ at the end, I’ve been called a naughty boy too- ive Never thought any of it was flirting
 
Other people have come forwards about DM sliding (we've already had the allegations from the 17 year old schoolboy and the junior BBC employee)... note these people are not claiming to be under age, one of them is apparently 35 and joked on social media that Huw tried to groom him until he found out.

Nothing wrong legally per se with flirting on social media, could come accorss creepy when unsolicited and legally-dodgy if pursued when you're not necessarily aware of the age of the person (as in the case of the 17-year-old allegation) or HR-dodgy if you do it to people you work with:

This alleged incident seems super tame:
Gpm0ne4.jpg


This alleged incident is obviously flirty:
4IkvSh8.jpg


That sort of thing would appear to be quite reckless and *if* that was a regular thing he did then it's unsurprising to have seen 3 more people come forwards after the initial story + then the BBC employees and then these appear on social media too.
OMG 60 year old man has social media presence :eek: Oh the humanity!
 
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