The impending environmental disaster

Ice melt at the poles has sped up by 6 times over the last decade and if it keeps increasing that sea level rises of several metres could be possible.

It doesnt take much for big areas of the UK to disappear.

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13m puts the sea just outside York, lincoln, Peterborough and Cambridge. They would all become seaside resorts!

Everything to the east of them would be under water.

Hull, Boston and great Yarmouth would all be under water.

What was left of Lincolnshire would become an island.

To be fair. No loss there with Lincolnshire! :D

I live at a low level. 7m

Im actually thinking about moving soon. Because like with stocks and shares if people start really believing this is going to happen this house will be unsellable
 
You do realise that to reduce sea levels we could just irrigate Africa and plant forests to carbon capture?

It's not cheap but it would create jobs, infrastructure, biofuel.

When you pin people down who say its no problem you soon start to see thier reasons are ridie.

Irrigate Africa?
 
To be fair. No loss there with Lincolnshire! :D

I live at a low level. 7m

Im actually thinking about moving soon. Because like with stocks and shares if people start really believing this is going to happen this house will be unsellable

I live 241m above sea level so we will be fine. Just need to put defences to stop all you lot trying to move here when the sea has flooded you :P
 
I live 241m above sea level so we will be fine. Just need to put defences to stop all you lot trying to move here when the sea has flooded you :p

I don't think it will make much difference. The economy will be in tatters and there won't be enough food to go round. People panic when can't get the pigs in blankets for Christmas.


It's going to be a scary one when it happens.

Millions displaced. Homes worth nothing. Can't even begin to imagine.

It will. Probably start with insurance not covering your house for flooding/banks not lending if below 10m sea level. And cascade from there.

Planning to move in a year. It feels ridiculous even thinking it. But it's certainly not something you want to get caught short on
 
I don't think it will make much difference. The economy will be in tatters and there won't be enough food to go round. People panic when can't get the pigs in blankets for Christmas.


It's going to be a scary one when it happens.

Millions displaced. Homes worth nothing. Can't even begin to imagine.

It will. Probably start with insurance not covering your house for flooding/banks not lending if below 10m sea level. And cascade from there.

Planning to move in a year. It feels ridiculous even thinking it. But it's certainly not something you want to get caught short on

That when the North will finally prosper.
 
I live 241m above sea level so we will be fine. Just need to put defences to stop all you lot trying to move here when the sea has flooded you :p

If millions get displaced then society will collapse anyway, I'll be invading some remote farm in such a scenario.
 
The saraha desert and also the Australian desert are prime locations.

Explain how does irrigating with sea water help? It might reduce the sea levels but every 1m rise in sea levels is 363,055,932,321,814,243 litres of water so thats about 3.6 billion litres of water on every square km of Africa so around 3,630 litres per metre. So you would need to put water to height of 3.6m on every square metre of Africa.

That will kill every living plant and animal and make Africa un liveable.

What do you suppose you do with the 1.2billion people living there? Move them to the UK?

People like you are dangerous.
 
Explain how does irrigating with sea water help? It might reduce the sea levels but every 1m rise in sea levels is 363,055,932,321,814,243 litres of water so thats about 3.6 billion litres of water on every square km of Africa so around 3,630 litres per metre. So you would need to put water to height of 3.6m on every square metre of Africa.

That will kill every living plant and animal and make Africa un liveable.

What do you suppose you do with the 1.2billion people living there? Move them to the UK?

People like you are dangerous.

I'm guessing people generally think nothing has killed us yet, the earth is still here, well be OK. We could just do X.


Let's build a space elevator and pump that water into space!
 
Im actually thinking about moving soon. Because like with stocks and shares if people start really believing this is going to happen this house will be unsellable
I dont really pay any attention to scaremongering but it is a little worrying, i have only recently bought a property which although miles inland near Oxford, is right near the Thames and in a flood risk zone as it is :eek: :p I'll have to build some huge earth banks around it or something!
 
I'm guessing people generally think nothing has killed us yet, the earth is still here, well be OK. We could just do X.


Let's build a space elevator and pump that water into space!

Indeed, as climate changes its the UK and Northern europe who will be the most affected by rising sea levels. We will lose most of our most fertile farmland. Africa is barely affected.

In decades to come the UK will dwindle away and people will move to other countries.
 
Indeed, as climate changes its the UK and Northern europe who will be the most affected by rising sea levels. We will lose most of our most fertile farmland. Africa is barely affected.

In decades to come the UK will dwindle away and people will move to other countries.

You mean people like TRM will be migrating to Africa? :cry::cry::cry:

It'll be no good anyway, Africa will have 3.6m of salt water above it :cry:
 
I dont really pay any attention to scaremongering but it is a little worrying, i have only recently bought a property which although miles inland near Oxford, is right near the Thames and in a flood risk zone as it is :eek: :p I'll have to build some huge earth banks around it or something!

When people as a collective start to believe something it's amazing how much it affects things. Just look at panic buying petrol!

Where as this is kind of more real.

I guess people will only start to beeit when it's actually displacing significant areas.
So definitely want to get the jump on that!
 
Explain how does irrigating with sea water help? It might reduce the sea levels but every 1m rise in sea levels is 363,055,932,321,814,243 litres of water so thats about 3.6 billion litres of water on every square km of Africa so around 3,630 litres per metre. So you would need to put water to height of 3.6m on every square metre of Africa.

That will kill every living plant and animal and make Africa un liveable.

What do you suppose you do with the 1.2billion people living there? Move them to the UK?

People like you are dangerous.

Desalination plants, plant trees which consume water and capture carbon.

Cut them down to provide bio fuel.

It's almost like making the earth more efficient.
 
You mean people like TRM will be migrating to Africa? :cry::cry::cry:

It'll be no good anyway, Africa will have 3.6m of salt water above it :cry:

for every metre rise in world sea levels dont forget, To offset a 10m sea level rise you will need to dump 36m on Africa.
 
Desalination plants, plant trees which consume water and capture carbon.

Cut them down to provide bio fuel.

It's almost like making the earth more efficient.

Desalination plants consume 2kWh of energy to produce 1 m3 of water so it would need 726 petaWh of energy to reduce the sea levels by 1m

To put that in perspective that is 439 times the annual UK consumption of energy and at the moment we seem to be struggling to manage to supply that.

In fact, the desalination project would use more than the entire planet current consumption of energy.

The costs what be astronomical as well. AT current prices it would cost 76 trillion dollars to do this or 28 years of the UK annual total GDP.

Good luck getting the rich countries of the world to spend their entire gdp on desalination plants.

Q. Do these mad ideas sound sane when you hear them in your head?
 
Maybe we are at point whee really, only commercially viable fusion power can save us.

It is looking that way which is why Govts (and some people on here) who just brush it aside and say technology will save us are taking a massive gamble.
 
someone prove global warming is man made, seems no one has been able to yet

too much c02 apparently... it's not even anywhere close optimal c02 levels for plants and trees

that would suggest naturally the earth had way higher c02 in the past, plants and trees don't adapt randomly

Forest fires are our fault for mis managing forests for decades allowing dead wood etc that would usually burn in small fires to build up.
water shortages are our own fault for building so many bloody dams...

The USA has over 84,000 dams.... think about it water that should flow from one place to another no longer does. then they wonder why everywhere is getting dry.


the natural water table would have been forged over millions of years carving a path through the earth then we block those paths
 
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