The impending environmental disaster

Just like climate change, the drive to do away with plastic is 100% lip-service too.

None of the supermarkets will stop using single-use plastic, etc, etc, etc. Plastic will continue to be ubiquitous and over-used and we simply will not stop harming ourselves and all other life on this planet.

Because we don't want to. It really is that simple.

e: Hell, even mentioning our over-use of and total reliance on plastic elicits roll-eyes when you bring it up. People just don't want to think about it or hear about it. Because they don't care.

Yes. There are things that are so easy to do. Having 6 pack multipack crisps as just buying 6 normal p packs gets you the discount. If we can't even do that is never going to change
 
The truth is the earth has been a lot warmer and a lot colder than it is right now.

Anyone who denies this is living in a fantasy world.

no-one denies this. the difference is that in those previously warm times, that inevitably lead to higher sea levels and massive changes to low-lying coastlines, there weren't billions of people living next to the sea. There weren't billions of people being affected by increased frequency and severity of hurricanes, or twisters, or simple rainfall.
 
Yes. There are things that are so easy to do. Having 6 pack multipack crisps as just buying 6 normal p packs gets you the discount. If we can't even do that is never going to change

Made me laugh when sky did the ocean rescue, yet when you buy a sky box it comes wrapped in no end of plastic. Not needed.

Like Foxeye said, we don't want to change. It's really that simple. Nobody wants to die, obviously....yet we're not prepared to do what's required.

Governments won't. That's obvious. Just read the leaked documents which came out this week from various countries.

It's one thing humans wanting to kill themselves, it's quite another taking innocent species down with them.
 
no-one denies this. the difference is that in those previously warm times, that inevitably lead to higher sea levels and massive changes to low-lying coastlines, there weren't billions of people living next to the sea. There weren't billions of people being affected by increased frequency and severity of hurricanes, or twisters, or simple rainfall.

But there weren't billions of people creating co2 then either and it still happened.
 
Not to worry, the UK is going the lead the way, bankrupting us in the process. China and the US will follow our example.

Eh? The UK has one of the worst environmental records in the world, of all nations our nature is one of the most depleted. We arent leading the world with anything, unless depletion natural resources and biodiversity counts, then we are near the top.
 
Eh? The UK has one of the worst environmental records in the world, of all nations our nature is one of the most depleted. We arent leading the world with anything, unless depletion natural resources and biodiversity counts, then we are near the top.

Exactly, don't you know we started this whole thing about 200 years ago.

Guilty guilty guilty.

Personally though if I lived in an area liable to flood I'd probably move house.
 
Exactly, don't you know we started this whole thing about 200 years ago.

Guilty guilty guilty.

Personally though if I lived in an area liable to flood I'd probably move house.

A lot of places that have flooded or are liable to flood have some of the best flood defences in the country. We had a massive tidal flood that effected large parts of our town in 2013. It was the first time a flood of that nature in 50+ years. Since then we have had a new tidal barrier installed costing 100 million+.
 
Exactly, don't you know we started this whole thing about 200 years ago.

Guilty guilty guilty.

Personally though if I lived in an area liable to flood I'd probably move house.

Ice melt at the poles has sped up by 6 times over the last decade and if it keeps increasing that sea level rises of several metres could be possible.

It doesnt take much for big areas of the UK to disappear.

Great app here.

http://flood.firetree.net/

13m puts the sea just outside York, lincoln, Peterborough and Cambridge. They would all become seaside resorts!

Everything to the east of them would be under water.

Hull, Boston and great Yarmouth would all be under water.

What was left of Lincolnshire would become an island.
 
A lot of places that have flooded or are liable to flood have some of the best flood defences in the country. We had a massive tidal flood that effected large parts of our town in 2013. It was the first time a flood of that nature in 50+ years. Since then we have had a new tidal barrier installed costing 100 million+.

If water levels keep rising then Boston will be underwater anyway, no mater how much was spent on flood defences, unless you are going to build a sea wall round Boston?
 
A lot of places that have flooded or are liable to flood have some of the best flood defences in the country. We had a massive tidal flood that effected large parts of our town in 2013. It was the first time a flood of that nature in 50+ years. Since then we have had a new tidal barrier installed costing 100 million+.
What a great investment..........for literally only the few folk who live where you do.

Living on flood planes should be at your own peril, not for us to pick up the cost of fixing.
 
Living on flood planes should be at your own peril, not for us to pick up the cost of fixing.

Yeah lets just move London, shouldn't have built it on a flood plane.

Civilisation developed around rivers / coasts, moving all of that isn't really an option unless things get incredibly bad.
 
Ice melt at the poles has sped up by 6 times over the last decade and if it keeps increasing that sea level rises of several metres could be possible.

It doesnt take much for big areas of the UK to disappear.

Great app here.

http://flood.firetree.net/

13m puts the sea just outside York, lincoln, Peterborough and Cambridge. They would all become seaside resorts!

Everything to the east of them would be under water.

Hull, Boston and great Yarmouth would all be under water.

What was left of Lincolnshire would become an island.

You do realise that to reduce sea levels we could just irrigate Africa and plant forests to carbon capture?

It's not cheap but it would create jobs, infrastructure, biofuel.
 
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