The Indoor Riding/ Zwift/ TrainerRoad etc. Thread
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Bargains on there if they have your size. Even some of the more expensive frames are well priced looking at the carbon ADV 9.4 for only £490
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By compatible i meant the Kickr Core supports virtual shifting, which is the important bit, and that you can use the cog, or cog v2 with it, though as youve alluded to it needs slight adaptation for that.They're not exactly the same.
Upgrading Wahoo KICKR CORE to Wahoo KICKR CORE Zwift One - Zwift Cog Compatibility
Received my cog and went to fit it on my kikr core. Allegedly I take my cassette and freehub body off,easy, leave the collar on the axle and slide cog with it’s free hub body on. BUT it doesn’t slide over the spacer/collar!! And yes I pushed, greased and wiggled it. Didn’t tap with hammer...forums.zwift.com
Unlike say any Kickr V model below the Kickr V6 which dont currently support virtual shifting.
Need to do something which keeps you engaged/distracted! Racing very good, as are the group rides for going further/longer without realising. The various things I do, I struggle to do less than 1.5 hours on there...
If you just want to clock the fastest 100 miles that's the best way, just have to be ready for 3-4 hours sat in the same position able to hold a good tempo, which does take some building to. Do a 100km first, there's far more group rides for that. I find these better on a rolling course, which does take longer, but gives you more variation along with respite from changing position. The best ones for me are those with multiple laps with a punchy ramp on them or a climb long enough to pace - as I'm generally faster uphill than most, so I play around on them doing different efforts to relieve the legs/arse.
I've been suffering with gunge for weeks. Maybe months. The cold air really is the cause - to be fair I've kinda had something for several years, mostly goes to almost nothing during the summer, then returns in the winter when getting up in the morning or post-ride I've got a bunch of phlegm/snot to clear. Don't feel ill and never quite 'bad' enough to consider doing anything with it. Just always got a snot rag handy!
How far is Ludlow from you? Think you're near Stoke? So around 1hr?
No idea on access or what is there to be worth a trip, but one of my mates has been building a bunch of extra trails around Bucknell/Hopton would think they're open to general public -
There's trails at 'Snailbeach'/Stiperstones which is closer to you (other side of Shrews). Again don't know about access/cost etc, just recall a fund raising thing they did for a defib there a few years back from a guy who I rode on Zwift with.
HAha yeah, it's also a tricky one to get ride, especially if riding it hard!
Note - not many (any!?) of them come with forks. Don't know individual pricing on them for what is compatible, looks like another 200-450 generally.
Yeah pretty miffed my far more expensive (paid £899) KICKR v5 I 'splashed' out on instead of getting the older & cheaper Core isn't compatible... When the Core would have been.
I get the KICKR doesn't have the electronics for it - so why the hell does the Core?
The KICKR being the premium model they revised every 2-3 years and have released 6-7 versions of... Mine being the 2020v5 which they replaced in September 2022 with the v6. Why did the first 5 versions of KICKR not have it. Yet the 'stripped down' cheaper Core trainer, which they released only 1 version of (?) in September 2018 does have the electronics for it the Cog. Bizarre!
But not that miffed. My v5 just did it's 3rd birthday (15th Jan 2022) and it's been rock solid. No need to even consider looking at maintanance on it. I'm changing my chain soon so will get the freehub off and grease it up to reduce the noise. Sounds like it needs some, other than that VERY happy customer. So slight rub/belt noises in the really cold weather but go as soon as it warms up!
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Late joined La Reine today, with only 8.5Km left, ~2400 feet of climbing and 90mins later I was absolutely drained...
What the heck was I thinking?!?!
Route badge finally got, no plans to do again for the foreseeable.
What the heck was I thinking?!?!
Route badge finally got, no plans to do again for the foreseeable.
Yeah it sucks right! im just glad i got the v6 cheap 2nd hand as my first, and so lucked in to the virtual shifting world of things. Only suggestion i could make would be pick up a 2nd hand v6 and sell your v5 ?! or even sell your v5 and get a core for the same priceYeah pretty miffed my far more expensive (paid £899) KICKR v5 I 'splashed' out on instead of getting the older & cheaper Core isn't compatible... When the Core would have been.
I get the KICKR doesn't have the electronics for it - so why the hell does the Core?
The KICKR being the premium model they revised every 2-3 years and have released 6-7 versions of... Mine being the 2020v5 which they replaced in September 2022 with the v6. Why did the first 5 versions of KICKR not have it. Yet the 'stripped down' cheaper Core trainer, which they released only 1 version of (?) in September 2018 does have the electronics for it the Cog. Bizarre!
But not that miffed. My v5 just did it's 3rd birthday (15th Jan 2022) and it's been rock solid. No need to even consider looking at maintanance on it. I'm changing my chain soon so will get the freehub off and grease it up to reduce the noise. Sounds like it needs some, other than that VERY happy customer. So slight rub/belt noises in the really cold weather but go as soon as it warms up!
I'm still scarred from Ven-top but I want the badge so I need to do the route.
Though part of me does want to try Ven-Top again as I feel I could do better.
What is there for me to save up for now?
I've got the Tron for general riding. Aethos/lightwight for climbing, the Speedmax CFR and Zipp disc wheelset for TT/Training, Crux for gravel.
Just missing a mountain bike so I should get that but not enough routes to take advantage of it
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The Canyon with a disc wheel will beat the tron bike on loads of routes, in fact quite a few frames will especially on the flats. Do you use the swifter bikes site?
ZwifterBikes
Calculate the best bike in Zwift for any route based on your level, drops, weight and power. Compare bikes side by side with detailed splits. Based on ZwiftInsider test data. Developed by Thor Gabrielsen
zwifterbikes.web.app
You boys are overthinking this
I just like switching the bikes up depending on the ride! I mean realistically I'm going to be using my tron 99% of the time to flex on the 6 remaining people who don't have one but you have to spend the drops somewhere
Even though I currently only have 50k after spending my 1.7m. Need to do some pace partner rides!
I'm usually running so far behind that I just chuck Zwift on the iPad, pick the workout and the first route at the top of the page and crack on. I like the idea of you perusing your collection of equipment before your ride though
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We're supposed to be getting upgrades for bikes, but as often the case, Zwift talk about stuff way ahead of it happening.
I'm usually running so far behind that I just chuck Zwift on the iPad, pick the workout and the first route at the top of the page and crack on. I like the idea of you perusing your collection of equipment before your ride though
Every minute I spend wasting my time in the shed is an extra minute away from responsibilities
Not sure how many of us use both Zwift and Trainer Road together but just came across this chrome extension trainer road workout exporter
Off to London on Friday so wont get a chance to try it out but will give it a go next week. If I can just load up a months worth of TR workouts into Zwift and not have to worry about running two applications at once I may go this route until TR do an official integration
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Hahaha it is brutal isn't it. I'm at the point I could go back and do 1 ascent. It's been long enough the trauma and pain are gone... But would need a pretty good reason, especially to do more than 1 again!
Yeah I'm not too fussed, only reason for changing to Cog would be to also change bike frame to the Ride to take advantage of that. Minor gains to maintenance and equipment costs, but I already have the dedicated bike, groupset parts (even running di2 on it) so it's only chain costs (1 a year or less). I don't worry about the noise, nor the 'mess' of a lubed drivechain in my garage. Don't even care about electronic shifting/gears - mine is well maintained and almost zero technicals.Yeah it sucks right! im just glad i got the v6 cheap 2nd hand as my first, and so lucked in to the virtual shifting world of things. Only suggestion i could make would be pick up a 2nd hand v6 and sell your v5 ?! or even sell your v5 and get a core for the same price
Got the DirConnect thinking it would free up the Bluetooth channel on my AppleTV to use Play controllers. Nope. Bloomin thing needs 2! So current thinking is see what the next few Wahoo trainers are, when one of those impliments some kind of BT Bridge for HR which works over DirCon I can then use Play on ATV... Or I switch back to PC, probably the more likely thing...
Venge for flat racing. Canyon 2024 or Dogma F 2024 for rolling races. Enve 7.8 and Zipp 454 wheels. Cadex TRI and the DT Dicut ARC disc wheelset (fastest TT combo).
But really once you're level 40 and can have all of the above you've nothing to spend Drops on. I'm at near 17 million of them. Level 84 so not even that high considering I've been here 10 years!
Dogma is better! I've never understood the appeal of Canyon on Zwift, they must pay more than other brands to get their bikes on there and rated higher/faster.
There's no reason why an Aeroad 2024 is faster than a Tarmac SL8!
On which bike brand were the most races won in 2024?
The brand with the most victories in 2024 is Specialized with 91 victories, before Colnago (83) and Trek (63).
www.procyclingstats.com
Oh had a fun one on Tuesdays ZRL, my team smashed it again (took our 3rd win in a row this round - riders in 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 7th), but check the finishing positions and time on riders in 3rd & 4th
Literally finished in the same millisecond, both 46 min 16.839s! Zwift putting us joint 3rd (but ZP & WTRL putting me 3rd and Fred 4th). He streamed it - check it out (also have a look how brutal ZRL racing can be if you want...):
Skip to 48 mins to see a guy attack before the underwater ramp, then Fred follows him attacking the ramp, I'm moving up too (ease to let him go). Gap seems to stay at 1s so I figure he'll be caught, using the slight drag before harbour so bridge up. Nobody else comes with me so figure I'll take Fred with me and we manage to stay away... Not very often that works! Especially in something like ZRL!
Literally finished in the same millisecond, both 46 min 16.839s! Zwift putting us joint 3rd (but ZP & WTRL putting me 3rd and Fred 4th). He streamed it - check it out (also have a look how brutal ZRL racing can be if you want...):
Skip to 48 mins to see a guy attack before the underwater ramp, then Fred follows him attacking the ramp, I'm moving up too (ease to let him go). Gap seems to stay at 1s so I figure he'll be caught, using the slight drag before harbour so bridge up. Nobody else comes with me so figure I'll take Fred with me and we manage to stay away... Not very often that works! Especially in something like ZRL!
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Wish it was that 'easy' in the A races! I managed to stay with the lead group all the way to the finish, but I cannot sprint immediately after putting out threshold efforts. So only managed 11th 
Please indulge my Zwift moment from this morning as well - I actually won a race!
Now, it might have only been Cat C (the Range 2 higher band though!) and 20 in the race but you'd have thought I'd won on the Champs-Élysées with my celebration in the garage
Fan Flats is, erm, very flat so the bunch stayed together. The last time up the little climb I'd let others set the pace up but as we crested it, I went through the bunch as they must have backed off earlier than me. I got about 1 second in front and thought "stuff it", so put the power back down without a big "orange" sprint. That was the longest (virtual) 2km of my life as I slowly pulled out the gap but was waiting for somebody behind to unleash a big sprint and shut me down. Nobody did and I kept creeping further away, went round the hairpin, hit my PU and staggered over the line
Now, it might have only been Cat C (the Range 2 higher band though!) and 20 in the race but you'd have thought I'd won on the Champs-Élysées with my celebration in the garage
Fan Flats is, erm, very flat so the bunch stayed together. The last time up the little climb I'd let others set the pace up but as we crested it, I went through the bunch as they must have backed off earlier than me. I got about 1 second in front and thought "stuff it", so put the power back down without a big "orange" sprint. That was the longest (virtual) 2km of my life as I slowly pulled out the gap but was waiting for somebody behind to unleash a big sprint and shut me down. Nobody did and I kept creeping further away, went round the hairpin, hit my PU and staggered over the line