Poll: ** The iPhone 7 and 7 Plus Thread **
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Ordered my dad's one on Tuesday and it arrived Wednesday from EE.
Don't know what all the fuss is about regarding stock
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Got a phone call from apple on the buzzing issue. Have asked me to take in for a "service"
That is simply nonsense. I had a 7+, sent it back because it reminded me of all the things I didn't like about iOS. And those laughable bezels...
Returned to and much prefer my S7 Edge. Nothing to do with money whatsoever. Lots of people feel the same, trust me.
Nothing to do with trust. You're wrong. Android has the market share it does because, overall, handsets are cheaper than iPhones. Technophiles and enthusiasts such as yourself make up a tiny fraction of the customer base.
http://gizmodo.com/5977625/android-is-popular-because-its-cheap-not-because-its-good
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That article is 3 and a half years old! Times change.
I think it's probably more likely that a big chunk of the android market buys android with no idea they've even got android.
Flagships like the S7 are a bit different obviously, anecdotally a lot of the people I know who buy the higher end android phones buy android (or more likely buy samsung or HTC or whatever) for the same reason most people I know buy iPhones.
Familiarity and habit.
Flagships like the S7 are a bit different obviously, anecdotally a lot of the people I know who buy the higher end android phones buy android (or more likely buy samsung or HTC or whatever) for the same reason most people I know buy iPhones.
Familiarity and habit.
My housemate changed from iOS to Android (Note 4) a little over two years ago because of the ease of moving video and PDF files from his computer to the phone, he was studying CCIE in India at the time so couldn't be bothered with iTunes or cloud storage etc.
He's just upgraded to the S7 because he couldn't be bothered with switching back. I found it odd because he was always complaining about his phone rebooting, crashing, phone dying with 30% battery left etc. It was funny watching him rant and swear trying to get his data across. In the end he lost all of his Whatsapp conversations and saved game data.
I still don't understand why it's so difficult for Android to have a decent backup solution like iCloud that just works.
He's just upgraded to the S7 because he couldn't be bothered with switching back. I found it odd because he was always complaining about his phone rebooting, crashing, phone dying with 30% battery left etc. It was funny watching him rant and swear trying to get his data across. In the end he lost all of his Whatsapp conversations and saved game data.
I still don't understand why it's so difficult for Android to have a decent backup solution like iCloud that just works.
At a guess it's probably due to hardware fragmentation or it being down to the individual OEM to sort it out so they all go and do their own thing.
Samsung definitely have a backup solution of some description and there are various android apps that do it but because they're not baked into the OS or in many cases installed out of the box (or flimsy.. I mean if HTC have a backup solution what happens when they finally tank?) then people either don't find them or don't use them.
Not a positive or negative really because obviously for iOS it's pretty much iCloud or GTFO which has it's own issues but at least there is a functional solution thats relatively idiot proof out of the box.
No, Apple has less market share because they are more expensive and lack/give nothing extra over android/windows. Remember, it doesnt really cost more than a few dollars extra to make a top end smartphone over a mid ranger so to many they dont see the need to pay double for a slightly better performing device be it an s7/ip7/eliteX3/insert top end model here etc
Lets face it, no one "needs" a mobile phone that costs over 100 quid really. People that buy into apple do so as they are buying into an ideal that apple devices never break, are seamless and just work....
Those that buy windows or android do so knowing that they do everything they need it to and will have a device available for the amount of money they are willing to spend.
One final point, if mobile providers no longer provided the means to supply phones with their contracts, how many people would still be buying top end phones with their cash outright? Finance makes it too easy for the fur coat no knickers brigade.
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I would never trust icloud with anything - endless numbers of my iphone using friends have lost their data, pictures, etc and never got it back
I use dropbox with my Android phone and it works flawlessly and the files appear on my pc/mac no problems, and I can do what i like with them......Maybe your friend should have used drop box
I would never trust icloud with anything - endless numbers of my iphone using friends have lost their data, pictures, etc and never got it back
I use dropbox with my Android phone and it works flawlessly and the files appear on my pc/mac no problems, and I can do what i like with them......Maybe your friend should have used drop box
I'm talking about the phone backup itself, not file cloud storage.
What an utterly ridiculous statement.
Apple do have less market share because they're more expensive, I'll give you that, the rest sounds very much like more fanboy/jealous nonsense.
Saying iOS offers nothing over windows is just crazy.. I'm not even going to dignify it with a response because anyone who understands this knows the mountain of things iOS (and android) offers over windows is the whole reason why Nokia barely exist and microsoft have given up on their mobile strategy.
It absolutely does cost more to make nicer phones, these tear downs that allegedly work out how much something costs to make take no account of R&D or customer service or retail premises or running things like cloud services, they're worse than useless. I'm not suggesting for a second that it's 2x or 3x but then nokia, blackberry and practically HTC etc have either given up or gone bust because they don't make money. Profit is not a crime.
No, nobody needs a phone that costs over £100 in the same way nobody needs anything better than George at ASDA clothes. Nice things are nice.. we live in a consumerist society, I work hard, I get money, I do utterly pointless things like have people cook me dinners when I'm perfectly capable, go on holiday when my house is fine etc etc.. just rubbish.
Those who buy android and windows SOMETIMES know it'll do what they need. Sometimes they're just misinformed or subsequently discover they're wrong.. just like with iOS. Sometimes they don't have a choice when something is provided for them.
But the final one is a doozy...
Just imagine if you had to buy a house or a car or whatever just with cash. Credit isn't evil as long as you understand what you're getting into and it makes sense.
Finally... fur coat and no nickers.. get off your high horse and join the real world, you're a long time dead and you can't take it with you. If your choice is to stay entry level or you're not interested in high end phones then good luck to you (or wait.. I can hear you now "I have no debt I can buy what I want" blah blah) but there's no right or wrong here.
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Not me, I just prefer iOS much much much more than the alternatives.
@brendy I'll admit that I did but some QA issues have pushed me over to Android again. Phone hissing, Apple watch not always unlocking my mac etc led me to get refunds on both. I now have an S7 Edge. The OS is ******* horrific, it's full of rubbish but the screen is nice, I can wireless charge and it takes better pictures than my 7+. A few other things work better on this than iOS such as Swiftkey, enterprise mail client and the notification system.
Does that mean I'm doing to suddenly become an Android loving scumbag? No. I might get a 7+ again once it can be guaranteed that the hissing/coil whine issues have been resolved. That or next year's iPhone.
Does that mean I'm doing to suddenly become an Android loving scumbag? No. I might get a 7+ again once it can be guaranteed that the hissing/coil whine issues have been resolved. That or next year's iPhone.
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And in my experience, that is the case - I'm now on my third iPhone in six years, none of which have given the slightest hint of trouble. Compare that with the Samsung I had immediately prior which, so 'superior' was its build quality to anything out of Cupertino, couldn't even make it beyond 18 months of a two-year contract. Up until that point I'd sneered at all the fuss made about the iPhone and I was happy to then be proved wrong.
Such is the elitism and pomposity of that statement, it says more about you than whatever type of phone you use ever could ...
Jesus lads relax.
I am neither rich nor pompous, my last few phones were work owned, I drive a non new car and really don't mind Apple iPhones as smartphones, in fact I have a 5s sat in the car which will prob do me until Feb when Samsung release info on new models given my note7 is going to explode any second now.
It is not elitist nor pompous to say that a lot of people that struggle to feed their kids still find enough money to have top end phones on contracts that are entirely overdone with regards to what they actually need. Fur coat no knickers relates to that demographic. Many many people can afford them etc my point was that finance for a mobile phone is crazy but accepted these days.
Mobile phones components are developed by many outsourced companies so their R&D is built into their prices so the likes of Apple, Samsung, Motorola etc who do have massive research costs, when you divide it per handset it really isn't hundreds per device.
In work, I maintain approx 40 handsets which are predominantly iPhones and a handful of others. Between each renewal period I see a wide range of problems from screen faults, speaker and microphones failing, home buttons becoming insensitive and iOS updates causing freezing and general slowness. My note 4 had a crazy blue pixel (might have been a couple) it rebooted itself maybe twice in its two years of use. The other Android users never reported any issues but those guys would have been a little more independent to fix their own problems. Many on the iPhones struggle to make 2 years between being bent, batteries shot and general screen discoloration, My note 4 was in good condition so passed it onto my eldest daughter who canes the life out of it with YouTube and Pokemon, only a handful of the iPhones were in any sort of condition to pass onto staff. Let's agree that iPhones are not perfect nor are any other smartphone brand, when it comes to the premium phones, none are a better product, just different.
I am neither rich nor pompous, my last few phones were work owned, I drive a non new car and really don't mind Apple iPhones as smartphones, in fact I have a 5s sat in the car which will prob do me until Feb when Samsung release info on new models given my note7 is going to explode any second now.
It is not elitist nor pompous to say that a lot of people that struggle to feed their kids still find enough money to have top end phones on contracts that are entirely overdone with regards to what they actually need. Fur coat no knickers relates to that demographic. Many many people can afford them etc my point was that finance for a mobile phone is crazy but accepted these days.
Mobile phones components are developed by many outsourced companies so their R&D is built into their prices so the likes of Apple, Samsung, Motorola etc who do have massive research costs, when you divide it per handset it really isn't hundreds per device.
In work, I maintain approx 40 handsets which are predominantly iPhones and a handful of others. Between each renewal period I see a wide range of problems from screen faults, speaker and microphones failing, home buttons becoming insensitive and iOS updates causing freezing and general slowness. My note 4 had a crazy blue pixel (might have been a couple) it rebooted itself maybe twice in its two years of use. The other Android users never reported any issues but those guys would have been a little more independent to fix their own problems. Many on the iPhones struggle to make 2 years between being bent, batteries shot and general screen discoloration, My note 4 was in good condition so passed it onto my eldest daughter who canes the life out of it with YouTube and Pokemon, only a handful of the iPhones were in any sort of condition to pass onto staff. Let's agree that iPhones are not perfect nor are any other smartphone brand, when it comes to the premium phones, none are a better product, just different.