The joy of being a landlord

Do many of you guys unironically watch Mr Mog?

This says more about you than Mogg. Did you actually listen to him? Whether or not you agree with him we need open and honest debate. That means allowing him to speak and debating the issues however much you dislike him, not treating him with contempt.

Do you actually have any arguments against what he says?
 
This says more about you than Mogg. Did you actually listen to him? Whether or not you agree with him we need open and honest debate. That means allowing him to speak and debating the issues however much you dislike him, not treating him with contempt.

Do you actually have any arguments against what he says?
I can only treat haunted Victorian pencils with contempt.

I've seen what has had to say in past more than enough times to know he is best ignored. The fact that he might have a smidge of valid points is the same as giving idiots like Tate airtime because they mention a handful of common sense things in amongst all the other turd they sell.
 
This says more about you than Mogg. Did you actually listen to him? Whether or not you agree with him we need open and honest debate. That means allowing him to speak and debating the issues however much you dislike him, not treating him with contempt.

Do you actually have any arguments against what he says?

Do you actually believe he is honest and genuine?

"Open and Honest Debate" is not something you will EVER get from a snake like Mogg.

You remember... this is the guy that was photographed "lounging lazily" over the benches in the HOC like he owned the place... the guy born into money with such a distain for "normal plebs" he doesn't give the slightest toss about "The People".
 
It's all they have.
It's the equivalent of a small (and not particularly bright) child knocking on a door then running away and hiding.
I see the passive-aggressive brigade are on duty.
I can't laugh at somebody mentioning Mogg in same sentence as honest without you getting your knickers in a twist.......get a life seriously.
 
Do you actually believe he is honest and genuine?

"Open and Honest Debate" is not something you will EVER get from a snake like Mogg.

You remember... this is the guy that was photographed "lounging lazily" over the benches in the HOC like he owned the place... the guy born into money with such a distain for "normal plebs" he doesn't give the slightest toss about "The People".
It’s funny to see anyone take him seriously. He completely makes his own credibility worth nothing from tripe he normally spews.

The man is vile. People like him need to be nowhere near our political structure.
 
A lot of new/younger renters seem not to understand that mould is a function of not enough heating and not enough airflow, so they keep all the windows and vents shut because they don't want any draught so they can keep the heating on less.

All of my properties have good insulation and window vents as they were required by building regs either at time of build or when windows were replaced so I make sure people understand what they're for when they move in. Having learned the hard way that left to their own devices most people will leave them shut 100% as they think they are saving money doing so.
This can be flipped round to a lot of landlords mistake rising damp for condensation.

Ultimately the cause cant be certain until an expert looks at it.

For reference do you open your own windows at home in the middle of a freezing day?

I actually might be forced to move soon, for a couple of years now there has been growing damp in my bedroom, I first noticed it when clearing out boxes in the corner and was mould behind them, and then damp started rising up the entire wall, this didnt go away during spring/summer of which I have windows open a lot for fresh air. The problem also gets worse when its wet weather outside so either melting snow or rain.

Landlord maintenance guy shrugged his shoulder, manager said I trust my maintenance guy.

Then council did a inspection as part of selective licensing scheme(so seems this scheme does actually have work done), and since I dont want to be evicted, I didnt kick off about it, but still they noticed it, they then showed me the outside wall, and called in the manager, she sent her maintenance guy, he then argued with the council saying its not external damp. This lasted for about an hour, the council then told the guy if he doesnt change his stance there will be a mandatory work enforcement which will be paid for by the landlord. At this point the maintenance guy rang his manager and was told to go another job. Was a phone conversation between manager and council inspector of which I was told what happened, other than the council said they will be sending people round to inspect the property.

By the time these people showed up the damp was visible on my inside wall about 1m above the floor, all alongside the back wall, and smell very visible when walking into the room. The ground was dug up outside and and some probes inserted into the brick work, they then diagnosed rising damp.

My property unlike yours has very bad insulation though, the window frames are literally rotting away, single glazed of course. About 3 months ago my LL text me saying I will probably have to move out at least temporarily for remedy work to be done by order of the council. Usually my LL doesnt get involved on anything personally, but this went all the way up to him.

Place is a bit of a tip, needs decluttering etc. as well (although not much in bedroom), so might end up just finally moving and dealing with everything at once. My rent is already very high compared to a mortgage, and whats on the open market is even higher, typical rent for 1 bed flat is about double what my sister pays for a 3 bed house all in mortgage.

There is a place for private rental I think for short term tenants that dont care about security, and also for the high end of the market, but I think the core needs to be handled via social rent properties, the country has put itself into a mess by now having a reliance on private landlords.
 
Has anyone mentioned the ever-increasing amount of housing benefit paid to private landlords... because as they increase rents, the taxpayer simply has to pony up more money.

Lovely programme on C4 (iirc) the other month about slum landlords charging £1000 for a single room (turning a former council house into 4x "apartments"), and the taxpayer having to pay 100% of the rent for those tenants. Lovely.

And the other elephant in the room - the lack of long-term tenancies in this country (many hobbyist landlords hate this idea).

If you could secure your tenancy for 10-20 years, you could take pride in your house, making improvements (agreed of course) and really treat the place as your home.

Where is the incentive for anyone to improve (or even maintain) their private rented house? If they did so the landlords would simply up the rent, or worse, chuck them out...
 
Has anyone mentioned the ever-increasing amount of housing benefit paid to private landlords... because as they increase rents, the taxpayer simply has to pony up more money.

Lovely programme on C4 (iirc) the other month about slum landlords charging £1000 for a single room (turning a former council house into 4x "apartments"), and the taxpayer having to pay 100% of the rent for those tenants. Lovely.

And the other elephant in the room - the lack of long-term tenancies in this country (many hobbyist landlords hate this idea).

If you could secure your tenancy for 10-20 years, you could take pride in your house, making improvements (agreed of course) and really treat the place as your home.


Where is the incentive for anyone to improve (or even maintain) their private rented house? If they did so the landlords would simply up the rent, or worse, chuck them out...

I remember watching something years ago that pointed out the "hay day" of the DIY stores was back when council housing was far more common, as people knew they were likely safely housed for potentially life and many took a lot of pride in decorating their houses and flats well, often doing (with council approval) improvements to the properties, because they were actually homes, not just a place where you might be able sleep for 6-12 months before having to get out at short notice.
 
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Where is the incentive for anyone to improve (or even maintain) their private rented house? If they did so the landlords would simply up the rent, or worse, chuck them out...
That makes no sense at all.
My tenant has asked on various occasions whether she can decorate or remove some of the stuff that was in the place when she moved in or whatever.
As far as I'm concerned, she's in there for the long haul, so she can do what she wants.
Why on earth would I evict her for looking after the place???
You don't half talk a bunch of drivel.
 
That makes no sense at all.
My tenant has asked on various occasions whether she can decorate or remove some of the stuff that was in the place when she moved in or whatever.
As far as I'm concerned, she's in there for the long haul, so she can do what she wants.
Why on earth would I evict her for looking after the place???
You don't half talk a bunch of drivel.
Haha. We've already established that OcUK is home to the UK's hidden stash of benevolent landlords. The kind who trip over themselves to keep rents low, and shower their tenants with gifts.

Meanwhile, in the real - and savage - world of being a tenant, most people's experience of renting is rather different.

And about the long-term tenancy thing.. and why it is needed:

Of course you already said that it's never crossed your mind to evict a tenant, never ever, but it seems it does happen quite often in the real world.
 
and shower their tenants with gifts.
Again, you’re talking complete nonsense.
When has that ever been mentioned by any landlord on here?
I get that you’ve had a hard time as a tenant, and I’m sorry that you have, but to tar every landlord with the same brush is beyond idiotic.
I would have thought that having a few decent landlords who do right by their tenants was a good thing, but no, apparently not.
 
Has anyone mentioned the ever-increasing amount of housing benefit paid to private landlords... because as they increase rents, the taxpayer simply has to pony up more money.

Lovely programme on C4 (iirc) the other month about slum landlords charging £1000 for a single room (turning a former council house into 4x "apartments"), and the taxpayer having to pay 100% of the rent for those tenants. Lovely.

Yes, I did. Apparently it's fine and we already have too much social/affordable housing in the UK according to one of our more notorious forum contrarians.
 
Again, you’re talking complete nonsense.
When has that ever been mentioned by any landlord on here?
I get that you’ve had a hard time as a tenant, and I’m sorry that you have, but to tar every landlord with the same brush is beyond idiotic.
I would have thought that having a few decent landlords who do right by their tenants was a good thing, but no, apparently not.
If I remember rightly, he lives with his parents so I don't think he has had a hard time as a tenant. Happy to be corrected of course.
 
Again, you’re talking complete nonsense.
When has that ever been mentioned by any landlord on here?
I get that you’ve had a hard time as a tenant, and I’m sorry that you have, but to tar every landlord with the same brush is beyond idiotic.
I would have thought that having a few decent landlords who do right by their tenants was a good thing, but no, apparently not.
Given that "a few" decent landlords isn't something to crow about, if the rest are dire... in any case I don't believe I was singling you out in anything I said today or that you responded to today. You may or may not be a decent landlord, I have no way of knowing (and no, I can't just take your word for it).

But the lived experience of many as a private renter is exceedingly well documented. And literally everybody knows somebody with a crappy landlord. You really, really don't have to look far. In all my circles and friend's circles, there is someone having a crappy time with a terrible landlord.

All the usual cliches repeat themselves ad infinitum. Landlords who won't repair roofs. Who won't fix leaks, won't address damp, won't this, won't that. And threats of evictions when making problems known, etc. Landlords who turf people at with the minimum notice, only to put the property back on a few weeks later with a 20% price rise.

There are a metric ton of hobbyist landlords who are plain awful. The name of the game is exploitation, and this is not negated by saying things like, "Don't tar us all with the same brush." Your "industry" is filled with robber barons.
 
If I remember rightly, he lives with his parents so I don't think he has had a hard time as a tenant. Happy to be corrected of course.
I fail to see what my own current circumstances have to do with anything.

For the record, I was a private renter for years. But that literally doesn't matter, does it? Unless you can explain why it matters.
 
I’m not “crowing” about anything, nor have I ever.
I have a responsibility to my tenant, and it’s in my best interests that she’s happy.
Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
Btw
Do you still live with your parents?
 
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