The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - As a PC gamer, am I missing something?

I like how Jim Sterling dared not liking the game exactly as much as the rest, gave it an above average rating 7/10, so of course insecure people are writing him lovely stuff like "Drink bleach, you fat ugly ****"
I wonder if he did that to get clicks though. At worst I think this game would be a 8/10 to certain individuals and that would be because you know graphics not witcher/horizon quality and because it does not run with 144fps minimums and no g-sync... lol :p

Also I am not sure why people say there is no such things as 10 out of 10. It just means the game is outstanding and is used rarely when something special comes along. No need to overthink and complicate things.
 
Also I am not sure why people say there is no such things as 10 out of 10. It just means the game is outstanding and is used rarely when something special comes along. No need to overthink and complicate things.

I can understand the not giving a 10/10. Thats applicable to me too, not just for games, but for anything. Not matter how good I feel a movie is, or a book, or a computer game, I wouldnt give it a 10/10. Purely because that is a maximum score, it leaves no room for improvement. Having said that, I've never really been a fan of scores out of 10, I find it much too restricting. Out of 100 makes more sense to me...for example, those people who feel that a 10/10 is a perfect score, may well say well I wouldnt give it a 10/10 but I would give it a 99/100 and in some way that actually seems to work in my logic. 9/10 doesnt seem to do an almost perfect title justice, 10/10 suggests perfection, 99/100 shows good justice for an almost perfect title without actually being perfect and thus leaving room for improvement. Might not make sense to many people but makes sense to me :)
 
I can understand the not giving a 10/10. Thats applicable to me too, not just for games, but for anything. Not matter how good I feel a movie is, or a book, or a computer game, I wouldnt give it a 10/10. Purely because that is a maximum score, it leaves no room for improvement. Having said that, I've never really been a fan of scores out of 10, I find it much too restricting. Out of 100 makes more sense to me...for example, those people who feel that a 10/10 is a perfect score, may well say well I wouldnt give it a 10/10 but I would give it a 99/100 and in some way that actually seems to work in my logic. 9/10 doesnt seem to do an almost perfect title justice, 10/10 suggests perfection, 99/100 shows good justice for an almost perfect title without actually being perfect and thus leaving room for improvement. Might not make sense to many people but makes sense to me :)
I agree out of 100 is better and makes more sense. But as it is not used by many it makes sense to score 10/10. Just need to not overthink. There never be a perfect game with no room for improvement, so pointless to even think that imo.
 
I agree out of 100 is better and makes more sense. But as it is not used by many it makes sense to score 10/10. Just need to not overthink. There never be a perfect game with no room for improvement, so pointless to even think that imo.

Yeah its really weird that 100 isnt used much any more. When I think back to all the gaming magazines of the 80s and 90s, they were almost all percentage scores out of 100. Somewhere over the years that got dropped in favour of out of 10 scores. I just dont find marking out of 10 gives enough range, theres hardly any real difference between a 6/10 and an 8/10 but theres plenty of difference between a 60/100 and an 80/100. Gives a lot more flexibility in scoring imo. Wish more places would go back to marking out of 100. Its all probably part of the new fangled everyone is a winner fad so that nobody gets upset nonsense, damn ********* generation ruining existence again.
 
Yeah its really weird that 100 isnt used much any more. When I think back to all the gaming magazines of the 80s and 90s, they were almost all percentage scores out of 100. Somewhere over the years that got dropped in favour of out of 10 scores. I just dont find marking out of 10 gives enough range, theres hardly any real difference between a 6/10 and an 8/10 but theres plenty of difference between a 60/100 and an 80/100. Gives a lot more flexibility in scoring imo. Wish more places would go back to marking out of 100. Its all probably part of the new fangled everyone is a winner fad so that nobody gets upset nonsense, damn ********* generation ruining existence again.
Agreed.
 
You must have a hell of a setup then, since I'm running an OC 1070/4790k and in most games it's a challenge to reach 60fps/1440p at decent settings;p If you have something more powerful then it's not exactly "far from top end";p

And the problems with frame pacing you mention can't be ignored for us without G-sync simply because it feels way worse than locked 30fps.

Never really understood the concept that 30fps feels unplayable after you experience 60fps or more. Well, it does. For about 15 minutes. Then your eyes/brain adjust and it doesn't feel bad at all.

I guess it depends on what you play or maybe I'm just not that fussy. G-sync is not for me though, most panels are expensive and have crap specs. I much prefer a 60hz panel with great contrast and colours.

I'd think something's wrong with your system if you can't achieve 60 fps regularly at default 1440p. That's unless you're on ultrawide or cranking up the msaa. What do you get in firestrike?

You're right that you adjust, it helps compensate, but still feels pretty poor. As for the gsync monitors, I disagree on the specs. Whilst they are far from perfect, they are mostly good. I'd count 60hz as crap specs :D
 
So harsh on the PC :D

They seem mostly smooth and stutter free due to largely being locked at 30 fps in demanding games and due to the gamepad. Due to 30fps being half the refresh rate of most displays, the frame stays on screen for two refreshes. A PC game won't seem as smooth on a none gsync/freesync display at something like 45-60fps at 60hz, as 60 doesn't divide by 45-59 equally and it's this variance in the frames that gives you the less smooth feeling - some frames are staying on longer than others. Ignore this problem, and it's smoother on the PC. This issue is just as much of a problem in some ways as low frame rate itself. It's for this reason that console games will either run at 60fps or 30fps and sometimes use clever techniques to go up in fps with a poorer image to reach 60, or down in fps for 30 fixed with a better image as 60 isn't workable. Most of the time (virtually always) if your pc is capable of 40-55fps and you lock to 30fps, it will always seem smoother than a console game at 30fps providing you use a gamepad. It will never seem as smooth using a mouse. Motion blur simply masks console games dipping below 30/60 fps.

Gsync/Freesync eliminates the above problem but doesn't remedy the feeling of low frame rate like some think it does. 50fps still feels like 50fps with movement, it's just it is smoothed out without tear. The problem with a decent graphics card and one of these monitors at 120hz+ with 60fps-120fps is that anything less feels like a juddery mess, slideshow or both. My setup (and it's far from top end) has made horizon zero dawn on a standard ps4 feel unplayable.

As for Zelda, very tempted. Actually had a switch on order but bottled it today and cancelled. I'll probably wait to see how mass effect is first.
Maybe I am... :p

I still love PC gaming but imo, its golden days are over, at least for now...

Even for some games where I easily get 40+ FPS, having tried a 30fps cap, it still didn't feel as smooth as console and this is with a 360 controller (I use this for every game apart from shooter games :p) but yes, when using a mouse, it feels noticeably worse.

Completely agree about g/free sync too, I would still want to be above 50 FPS 90% of the time. Biggest advantage with g/free sync for myself would simply be not having to faff about with different vsync methods, FPS locks etc. to get the smoothest experience.

Yeah the standard PS 4 doesn't seem to be cutting it for some of those new games now, PS 4 pro looks a lot better for performance.
 
I think its a bit narrow minded to dismiss a game like this without trying it yourself first. I haven't yet, but I know I will eventually. You shouldn't ignore a game that is getting such praise.
 
What you are missing is the fact that this game does what it does better than anything before it. This is the first time in 20 or so years that I've considered getting a console..
Yeah but does it run 4K 60fps? Nope, must be crap then! Sorry could not help it :p
 
What you are missing is the fact that this game does what it does better than anything before it. This is the first time in 20 or so years that I've considered getting a console..

But does it? Difficulty aside, the combat is worse than any of its predecessors. The story is not a patch on aLttP or OoT. It has an open world which GTA, Skyrim, and a plethora of other games (even Mad Max) have already done well and that's not revolutionary in gaming terms. And aside from that first exploration, you use fast-travel which negates the overall scale and openness of the map. The chests never give anything wondrous, just another gem or weapon that's weaker than your equipped one and won't fit in your pack anyway. At least it was always exciting to open a chest in previous Zelda games.
 
But does it? Difficulty aside, the combat is worse than any of its predecessors. The story is not a patch on aLttP or OoT. It has an open world which GTA, Skyrim, and a plethora of other games (even Mad Max) have already done well and that's not revolutionary in gaming terms. And aside from that first exploration, you use fast-travel which negates the overall scale and openness of the map. The chests never give anything wondrous, just another gem or weapon that's weaker than your equipped one and won't fit in your pack anyway. At least it was always exciting to open a chest in previous Zelda games.
I agree the story is nothing special, but loving the rest of it myself :D
 
I agree the story is nothing special, but loving the rest of it myself :D
It's a good game and I try not to be too negative, but the frothing-at-the-mouth 10/10 reviews turned me from not caring less to avid anticipation overnight. Feel pretty let down and while I appreciate it for what it is, I cannot see why everyone gushes over it as much as they do.

I'm gonna say this right now and maybe will take a bashing for it, but... I had more fun with Mad Max.........................

I think some higher entity tweaked a universal constant while I was out of phase, or something, and I just don't get this crazy world anymore
 
It's a good game and I try not to be too negative, but the frothing-at-the-mouth 10/10 reviews turned me from not caring less to avid anticipation overnight. Feel pretty let down and while I appreciate it for what it is, I cannot see why everyone gushes over it as much as they do.

I'm gonna say this right now and maybe will take a bashing for it, but... I had more fun with Mad Max.........................

I think some higher entity tweaked a universal constant while I was out of phase, or something, and I just don't get this crazy world anymore
Nah, why would anyone bash you. Everyone has slightly different tastes :)

Even I would not give it 10/10, but at least a 9.5 at this point, which is more than I can say for many other games I played in recent memory.
 
I fell for the hype and bought a Nintendo Switch with Zelda. I really don't understand the high scores, I was bored to tears playing it.

Also right or wrong I simply can't get used to low fps and awful graphics.

PC over the years has spoilt me as I'm the same with Xbox one, only PS4 pro and horizon I've enjoyed.
 
I fell for the hype and bought a Nintendo Switch with Zelda. I really don't understand the high scores, I was bored to tears playing it.

Also right or wrong I simply can't get used to low fps and awful graphics.

PC over the years has spoilt me as I'm the same with Xbox one, only PS4 pro and horizon I've enjoyed.
I actually really like the graphics. The fps is not really an issue for me either. As for the game it has me hooked.

As you say, likely you are the type that prefers graphics and fps more than most. As much as I love good graphics, I will take a good game over it any day. Like take Horizon, nice graphics, but I would much rather play Zelda :)
 
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