The Liverpool Club Thread. **No Spoilers**

Ayahuasca said:
I suppose it depends on how many prem games the likes of Salah, Szobo and Endo miss, but more injuries when your top scorer and assister is out, isn't ideal.
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Trent's only likely to miss 1 League game, Szobo is already back training and won't miss a League game. Pep Ljinders confirmed Robertson and Kostas should be back towards the end of this month (1, maybe 2 League games). Heck, Thiago and Bajcetic may even appear sometime soon(ish) too.

Endo will probably miss a few games but thankfully Mac Allister is back now. Salah's a bit of an unknown but assuming Egypt get out of their group, they're likely to have a very tough first knockout game which if they lose, he'd only miss the Bournemouth League game.
 
Salah's not coming off the pitch unless he's injured. The best we can hope for is a minor pull that keeps him out for a 10-14 days although if that is the case and Egypt qualify for the next round, I can see them risking him.
 
Well Egypt qualified and if I'm not mistaken will now play Equatorial Guinea in the next round, who you'd think they'd have a decent chance of beating. If that were the case then Mo's injury is more of a blessing than anything. He'd have been unavailable anyway so at least he's having 3 weeks rest instead of being flogged in that clown competition.
 
Some positive news on the injury front. Pep has confirmed that Robertson was given the all clear to begin full contact training earlier in the week and will be in the squad tomorrow. Szobo has returned to full training and although won't be risked tomorrow, should be fine for the weekend as should Trent.
el_dazza said:
Did their best to throw it away though! Took the lead after 93 mins, conceded after 98. Ghana concede twice in injury time against Mozambique to push Egypt into the automatic qualification spot :o
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Yea, I saw. As much as it's a clown competition, the matches have been entertaining at least.
 
robfosters said:
Why is it a clown competition?
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I think all international football is a joke but Afcon take it to the next level with their amateurish organisation, refereeing and the like. One minute they're committed to moving the tournament to the summer then after 1 summer it gets moved back to the winter, they've held the tournament in a country with a civil war going on. We had the madness and probable corruption at the last tournament when the ref tried to end a match after just 85 minutes and when he was forced to restart the game, he then blew for full time again after just 89 minutes.
 
BIGWEB said:
I know a bit about this and it's been in the making for a while.

There were a few offers on the table but this one although smaller was taken due to them being given less access than the typical all or nothing.

I wouldn't be expecting to see loads of Klopps Half times for instance
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What offer? There's no details on who will be broadcasting it. The club are making this documentary, employing a production company to do the work. They will then either sell it to Amazon, Disney or whoever or (the most unlikely option) keep it for themselves to broadcast on their own channel/website.
 
BIGWEB said:
There were large offers on the table from the usual suspects but the club decided against them due to the access they wanted.

The club haven't gone into this without being pretty certain where it is going to be shown and the price which will be paid.
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:confused: You stated the club have taken a smaller offer than what was offered elsewhere. This is categorically untrue as they've not taken any offer at all.

It's being reported that filming started around Christmas time and according to Bloomberg last week(?) the club are in talks with all 'the usual suspects' about selling the series to them. Given that this announcement doesn't provide any detail on where it will land, it's safe to say they still haven't agreed anything on that front. Although possible that the club will keep it for themselves, the likelihood is that it'll end up being sold to an Amazon, Disney or Netflix of this world but the club are calling all the shots, deciding exactly what will be shown and no doubt using the 'Klopp's long goodbye' story as a selling point to drive up bids for the series.
 
BIGWEB said:
Do you think the club have turned down 8 figure offers and decided to make the documentary themselves without speaking to platforms and being really sure where it is going?

The contract may not be signed yet (or it maybe) my knowledge of the situation falls short of knowing if the ink is dry.
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No offence but you seem to be changing your argument now after making a claim which was completely untrue.

As for your new question, I have no doubt the club would have known (broadly speaking) what they could have earned if they signed up with Amazon at the start of the season to do an All or Nothing series however I strongly suspect the club have made a conscious decision, based on maximising revenue, to not do that. While Amazon would no doubt prefer the control of filming and producing the series themselves, they'd have no idea how the season for Liverpool would pan out and that element of risk would have been reflected in what they'd agree to pay the club. I strongly suspect the club have had this idea in mind for a number of years and have chosen now (and to do things this way) to maximise what they can earn out of it - the lack of control for the broadcaster is far outweighed by the guaranteed story they're getting. At the very least Amazon, Disney or whoever are getting the Klopp goodbye story and there's a reasonable chance that they're getting a title challenge + cup run(s) too. This is why, assuming the reports are true, that the club started filming this in December and are now going to the market to sell it.
 
I'm not being awkward, I'm just pointing out that you're making things up or whoever has told you these things are. You claimed the club have accepted a smaller offer than what was made elsewhere when in fact they've not accepted any offer whatsoever and are still in talks with media companies to sell the series.

Anyway, only time will tell whether the decision the club has made will prove more profitable. They're certainly banking on a potentially successful season coupled with the Klopp goodbye angle will see media companies scrambling to pick up the series, above and beyond what they'd have paid going into a season blind.
 
BIGWEB said:
You are being awkward and now you are suggesting that either I or someone else are lying.

I've just had a call to confirm what I said in the 1st post on the subject but I'm not willing to share anymore of the contents. If you have a contact at the club, which I am assuming you do as I would be surprised if you threw lying shouts out at the proviso of an article on the site. I suggest you float my first post by them.
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To be crystal clear, yes I am saying you or whoever has given you this information is lying. What you claimed is simply untrue and I suspect what's happened here is you've mistaken the production company for the broadcaster and tried to add your own spin on the story for internet points. Sadly it's gone spectacularly wrong and you've now started digging. Although I can appreciate this is awkward for you, I'm not being awkward, just stating facts.

I don't need a contact to say the above. If the series had been sold to a broadcaster then the club would have announced it and if it was close to being sold then they would have delayed the announcement to coincide with that deal. And although I don't have contacts at the club, the Business of Footballer writer for the Liverpool Echo does and he has stated on twitter that the club are keeping their powder dry in regards to selling the series, hoping to drive up interest and commented that they may even keep it for themselves.

Now obviously if you can prove your claims or even if the club does not sell the rights to a major broadcaster (you've told us they rejected them) or keep it for themselves then I'll happily apologise. I think we all know you won't do the former and this series is guaranteed to end up either on a major platform or being broadcast directly by the club though.
 
He's our best midfielder. He can play as our 6 or in Jones' role on the left and his experience will be huge for us later in the season if things start to get nervy. Because if his injuries you can't rely on him and have to treat him as a bonus player but he's some bonus.

In other, more sad news, there's reports coming out of Ireland that Conor Bradley's father passed away this morning. From what I understand he has been unwell for sometime. While its no doubt devastating for Conor, I'm glad his Dad got to see him break into the side and put on that performance midweek.
 
Reports coming out of Portugal suggesting Jota's going to be out for 2 months. Both a huge blow and a relief at the same time. He's such an underrated player, always scoring important goals and has been huge for us in the last 6-7 weeks since Salah's been out so to lose him for most of the rest of the season is gutting but 2 months realistically was the best we could hope for. He's always been a player that just slots straight back into the side and is firing from day one whenever he's been out injured before - hopefully we've still got lots to play for by the time he's back and he's still got a few more important goals left in him this season.
 
I'm sure I said something similar mid January but if we can get through the next couple of weeks then things should start to improve. Only Jota (as well as Thiago, Bajcetic & Matip) appear long term. Last week Klopp said Szobo was due back around the time of the League Cup Final (not that I can see him being risked for that) and Trent was around a week after. Hopefully Alisson will be back by the City game if not sooner. Jones is a bit of an unknown but Klopp didn't couple him in with Jota in the 'months' category so I guess latest he's back after the International break.
 
Injury update from Pep in his League Cup final press conference. Szobo, Salah and Nunez are touch and go for the final, Jones will be around the time of the international break (I assume that will probably mean after the internationals) and Jota, Trent & Alisson will be after the internationals. Not sure what happened to Trent as a week or so ago Klopp said he was going to be back a week after the Cup final.
 
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